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Nzoner's Game Room>Official 2017-2018 NBA Playoffs thread!
Al Bundy 08:21 PM 04-13-2018

We'll see if the Warriors recover from the end of the season stretch of stinkers.
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staylor26 03:04 PM 06-01-2018
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
It's not Lebron's fault that Kyrie wanted to leave. That's what was reported by Brian Windhorst (or whatever his name is from ESPN).

You can go ahead and say, "Yeah, I don't believe that at all," but that was what was put out by the media when Kyrie requested the trade.

That one is NOT on Lebron.
I don’t know if you’re aware, but Windhorst is Lebron’s mouthpiece in the media.

Anything he’s reporting when it comes to Lebron is 100% from Lebron and/or his team.
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Best22 03:05 PM 06-01-2018
Originally Posted by Amnorix:
You mean the ref that was CLEARLY looking at the ball/action and CLEARLY not looking at Bron didn't see Bron's ONE quick timeout motion? Must be a conspiracy!!

:-)


See 4:40 to 4:50 mark.

It's not a conspiracy. Refs are garbage sometimes

But no ref help could ever allow Boston to beat Lebron:-)
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RealSNR 03:12 PM 06-01-2018
Originally Posted by staylor26:
I don’t know if you’re aware, but Windhorst is Lebron’s mouthpiece in the media.

Anything he’s reporting when it comes to Lebron is 100% from Lebron and/or his team.
So not that this is necessarily better, but he said it came directly from Kyrie's team. That was the reasoning Kyrie gave for wanting to leave Cleveland.
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chiefzilla1501 03:12 PM 06-01-2018
Originally Posted by Best22:
It's not a conspiracy. Refs are garbage sometimes

But no ref help could ever allow Boston to beat Lebron:-)
Lots of blame to go around. JR Smith obviously. I just don't know what coach in their right mind doesn't make sure before the free throw to prepare for that scenario. He should have pulled someone aside and told them. Then he should have been sprinting and screaming to get that timeout. Lue is so utterly worthless.
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DaKCMan AP 04:02 PM 06-01-2018
Bron acted like a whiny bitch at the press conference.
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KC_Connection 04:04 PM 06-01-2018
Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP:
Bron acted like a whiny bitch at the press conference.
Understandably. He had maybe the greatest game ever played in the NBA Finals and it was all for not because of the abysmal refereeing and the stunning incompetency of his scrub teammates. If I was him, I'd have been a little miffed too.
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PAChiefsGuy 04:05 PM 06-01-2018
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
I don't blame Kyrie at all (although he's likely never winning a championship again now unless they get another superstar), but LeBron has no reason to make a long-term commitment to the Cavs or anyone else. In his position, he shouldn't be getting locked down in long term contracts at all at this point of his career and have a team control any part of it.
I disagree with this. I think it is awesome if a player spends his whole career in one spot like MJ did (yes I know he went to the Wizards later in his career but you know what I mean), Kobe, Duncan, Magic, Bird etc.... I especially admire it when superstars do it because it shows their competitiveness and loyalty.

I doubt you'd be saying this if Patrick Mahomes decided to bolt when his contract is up so don't give me that 'LeBron has no reason to make long-term commitment' bullshit. Cavs drafted and did everything he wanted when he returned. If he decides to leave again fine but loyalty is great. It's one reason I respect Westbrook more than Momma's boy Durant.
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KC_Connection 04:09 PM 06-01-2018
Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy:
I disagree with this. I think it is awesome if a player spends his whole career in one spot like MJ did (yes I know he went to the Wizards later in his career but you know what I mean), Kobe, Duncan, Magic, Bird etc.... I especially admire it when superstars do it because it shows their competitiveness and loyalty.
Sure it's nice, but not mostly unrealistic in the modern day sports landscape. Also this doesn't have anything to do with my post really.

Originally Posted by :
I doubt you'd be saying this if Patrick Mahomes decided to bolt when his contract is up so don't give me that 'LeBron has no reason to make long-term commitment' Cavs drafted and did everything he wanted when he returned.
I'm in favour of the players having as much rights as possible over the owners (especially when that player is arguably the greatest athlete of all time), so I doubt my opinion would be any different if it was Mahomes taking short-term contracts (he has no leverage right now to do so) or anybody else. LeBron wants the freedom each offseason (or thereabouts) to choose what he's going to do or where he's going to play at this stage of his career and I have no idea why anybody would knock him for it.
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chiefzilla1501 04:21 PM 06-01-2018
Cowherd nails it. This is seriously a really bad NBA policy. I don't know of any other sport that allows review of a judgment call. Has this ever happened in a playoff game? (let alone in the finals, let alone in the last 30 seconds of regulation). Closest I can think of is a tuck rule, but that's not a penalty call.

Imagine if this was the NFL and a team gets a game-sealing defensive stop. The refs review if a receiver (who was clearly out of bounds) was in bounds for the catch, then decide to call pass interference. Or decides to call roughing the passer. That's what happened last night. And it's pretty messed up.

"If the refs don't overturn a judgment call... The Cavs are up by two, 35 seconds left, LeBron's ball. They can close the game out. We don't have an overtime. We don't have a JR Smith controversy." — @ColinCowherd pic.twitter.com/580GLemzFf

— Herd w/Colin Cowherd (@TheHerd) June 1, 2018


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chiefzilla1501 04:37 PM 06-01-2018
Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP:
Bron acted like a whiny bitch at the press conference.
If I'm Lebron and Lue, I rip the refs a new one and take the fine.
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PAChiefsGuy 04:39 PM 06-01-2018
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
Sure it's nice, but not mostly unrealistic in the modern day sports landscape. Also this doesn't have anything to do with my post really.


I'm in favour of the players having as much rights as possible over the owners (especially when that player is arguably the greatest athlete of all time), so I doubt my opinion would be any different if it was Mahomes taking short-term contracts (he has no leverage right now to do so) or anybody else. LeBron wants the freedom each offseason (or thereabouts) to choose what he's going to do or where he's going to play at this stage of his career and I have no idea why anybody would knock him for it.
That's because you are a LeBronie. You are a fan of a player not an actual team. You could caress about the Cavs or Heat. You are like a man without a country.
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Best22 04:45 PM 06-01-2018
Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy:
That's because you are a LeBronie. You are a fan of a player not an actual team. You could caress about the Cavs or Heat. You are like a man without a country.
Following Lebron. It's a good life. I relish every moment he's on the court in the Finals

The NBA is nothing without superstars and Lebron is the ultimate superstar aside from Jordan
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chiefzilla1501 04:48 PM 06-01-2018
Jeff Van Gundy just on ESPN. Said the refs scammed the system. They knew they couldn't review the charge. They knew damn well Lebron was outside the restricted area, but used it an excuse to review the charge call. Bad, bad optics on this.
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Hboosboy 04:58 PM 06-01-2018
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
Understandably. He had maybe the greatest game ever played in the NBA Finals and it was all for not because of the abysmal refereeing and the stunning incompetency of his scrub teammates. If I was him, I'd have been a little miffed too.
No, Elgin Baylor did.
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Hammock Parties 05:58 PM 06-01-2018
:-)




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