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Nzoner's Game Room>2018 STL Cardinals Thread
BigRedChief 05:51 PM 01-02-2018
Opening day lineup

Fowler RF
Pham CF
Carpenter 3B
Ozuna LF
Martinez 1B
Molina C
Dejong SS
Wong 2B
Pitcher

Edit:
Matheny fired 07/14/2018




Opening Day Roster
Spoiler!

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jd1020 11:40 AM 08-07-2018
All you have to know about how much Harper is about to get paid is when people start talking about .875 OPS being a dog shit year for the guy.
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BigRedChief 12:28 PM 08-07-2018
Originally Posted by jd1020:
All you have to know about how much Harper is about to get paid is when people start talking about .875 OPS being a dog shit year for the guy.
i’m with Prison Bitch, I think before this season he was set to get $400 million. I think he gets $300 million now. $300 million is still big pile of money.
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'Hamas' Jenkins 12:35 PM 08-07-2018
Holland signed with the Nats. They play a four game set in St. Louis next week. Please roll that cocksucker out for one of those games.
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jd1020 12:39 PM 08-07-2018
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
i’m with Prison Bitch, I think before this season he was set to get $400 million. I think he gets $300 million now. $300 million is still big pile of money.
Any team that offers him less than what Stanton got is going to be left holding their dicks.
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Prison Bitch 12:46 PM 08-07-2018
Originally Posted by jd1020:
All you have to know about how much Harper is about to get paid is when people start talking about .875 OPS being a dog shit year for the guy.
Yeah. He's 31st/158 regulars in wRC+, behind the power bats of Nick Markakis (!), David Peralta and Brandon Nimmo (who?)
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jd1020 12:47 PM 08-07-2018
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
Yeah. He's 31st/158 regulars in wRC+, behind the power bats of Nick Marsalis (!) and Brandon Nino (who?)
How do their careers match up to Harper at 25? Just curious.
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Prison Bitch 12:49 PM 08-07-2018
Originally Posted by jd1020:
How do their careers match up to Harper at 25? Just curious.
Not sure. How did Greg Holland's career match up with the others you could've signed instead for far less $?
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jd1020 12:51 PM 08-07-2018
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
Not sure. How did Greg Holland's career match up with the others you could've signed instead for far less $?
Ya because their situations are even remotely similar.
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Prison Bitch 01:02 PM 08-07-2018
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
i’m with Prison Bitch, I think before this season he was set to get $400 million. I think he gets $300 million now. $300 million is still big pile of money.
His metrics are all going the wrong way. He still mashes FB but struggles now vs curves/sliders. His contact rate plunged from 85% to 77% of swings. His exit velo and HR distance are both down.


Defensively he's the worst RF by a mile. Worst arm, worst range, everything. Dexter Fowler saves twice the runs Harper does. Think about that!


He may yet become the monster the media and fans falsely believe he is, but if this was his audition for $400M, wow did he show stage fright.
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VAChief 01:33 PM 08-07-2018
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
His metrics are all going the wrong way. He still mashes FB but struggles now vs curves/sliders. His contact rate plunged from 85% to 77% of swings. His exit velo and HR distance are both down.


Defensively he's the worst RF by a mile. Worst arm, worst range, everything. Dexter Fowler saves twice the runs Harper does. Think about that!


He may yet become the monster the media and fans falsely believe he is, but if this was his audition for $400M, wow did he show stage fright.
How do you figure he has the worst arm? He was clocked at 98mph on a throw to home to nail Kosma at the plate last year from decent depth in RF last year.

His metrics though are surprising, considering he has had years where his range was an asset. He is fast enough...it makes you wonder about how much he cares about his defense.
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Miles 02:18 PM 08-07-2018
If Harper keeps up the current pace this year he will have had sub 2 WAR seasons in 3 of the last 5 years with 2 being in past 3. Still only 25 so will get paid based on some potential from his complete badass season but expect he had cost himself some money. Only takes one team to get paid though.
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jd1020 03:40 PM 08-07-2018
Originally Posted by Miles:
If Harper keeps up the current pace this year he will have had sub 2 WAR seasons in 3 of the last 5 years with 2 being in past 3. Still only 25 so will get paid based on some potential from his complete badass season but expect he had cost himself some money. Only takes one team to get paid though.
He isn't keeping a current pace though. He's got a 1.000 OPS over the last month, 1.100 for the 2nd half so far.
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BigRedChief 06:57 PM 08-07-2018
So should the Cardinals offer Harper 10years/$300? Or will he get multiple offers at that AAV and length and level and we need to better that offer?

Or should we just stay away from him and spending that kind of long term money?
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Marcellus 07:27 PM 08-07-2018
Out lead off hitter has 30 HR and out cleanup guy is basically Ichiro.
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BigRedChief 07:35 PM 08-07-2018
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
Out lead off hitter has 30 HR and out cleanup guy is basically Ichiro.
lets be honest though, the only reason he is hitting lead off is because every time they try to move him out of that spot, he immediately falls off a cliff and hits .200 with no power.
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