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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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O.city 09:15 PM 05-02-2020
Originally Posted by notorious:
That's what I get for not quoting the post I referenced! :-)

The Ohio prison "test" has the 99.14% survival rate.
Not just survival rate but symptom rate no?
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O.city 09:15 PM 05-02-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
So call it, how many people do you think are really walking around with this virus?

I'll say 10-12 million
I think we’re probably missing 20-30x infections than the actual count
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petegz28 09:16 PM 05-02-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
I think we’re probably missing 20-30x infections than the actual count
So you say 20-30 mil?
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O.city 09:18 PM 05-02-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
So you say 20-30 mil?
I think so yeah.
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petegz28 09:22 PM 05-02-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
I think so yeah.
so let's assume that 30 mil is correct. That puts our death rate at what, .02%?

Shouldn't we actually feel a bit better about it? I know it seems a bit counter-intuitive but wouldn't that actually be the case?
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mr. tegu 09:24 PM 05-02-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
I think we’re probably missing 20-30x infections than the actual count

Definitely enough to not make me overly worried about some worst second wave that is often predicted. I just think the amount of potential infections is going to be so much lower even a month from now than we really even imagine.
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Baby Lee 09:24 PM 05-02-2020
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
I'm just aghast at the fact that virtually our entire society was able to make such massive sacrifices for wartime efforts 80 years ago--planting Liberty Gardens, no one getting a new car for four years, rations, half of an entire generation going off to war while the other half entered the workforce to replace them--for the better part of four years, yet our society can't make it through four weeks.
Totally different metrics, different incentives, different consequences, different risk, and different restrictions [including some that, while less than what we're currently imposing, are considered a stain on our nation].

We've been remarkably compliant, and now it's not just yearning to stretch our legs for the eff of it, but it's also bundled with an unspoken narrative that things that aren't evident in the near future and may not happen for a long time are becoming a pre-requisite to any changes at all. And social media while in personal isolation self-curates the most wild-eyed and outrageous for your perusal.
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notorious 09:25 PM 05-02-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
Not just survival rate but symptom rate no?
I didn't see anything on the Ohio prison page that states symptom rates, just positive/negative/pending cases, and of course deaths.
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petegz28 09:28 PM 05-02-2020
Originally Posted by mr. tegu:
Definitely enough to not make me overly worried about some worst second wave that is often predicted. I just think the amount of potential infections is going to be so much lower even a month from now than we really even imagine.
The problem is right now for every 1 death we blow it up to be like 1000 deaths and for every 1 negative case we swear it 1000 times to be a false negative.

I don't want anyone to die from this or anything else for that matter. No one does. But there is a pragmatism that is not being applied by some and admittedly to liberally by others.
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O.city 09:29 PM 05-02-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
so let's assume that 30 mil is correct. That puts our death rate at what, .02%?

Shouldn't we actually feel a bit better about it? I know it seems a bit counter-intuitive but wouldn't that actually be the case?
It would be 0.002

But death is a lagging factor so the death from today’s current infections wouldn’t theoretically be happening for 2 weeks
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petegz28 09:30 PM 05-02-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
It would be 0.002

But death is a lagging factor so the death from today’s current infections wouldn’t theoretically be happening for 2 weeks
Fair enough point but at the rate we seen it won't vary enough to be significant in one direction or the other.
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O.city 09:30 PM 05-02-2020
Originally Posted by mr. tegu:
Definitely enough to not make me overly worried about some worst second wave that is often predicted. I just think the amount of potential infections is going to be so much lower even a month from now than we really even imagine.
We aren’t thru the first wave. I don’t think we’ll have a second wave but moreso a continual slow burn
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mr. tegu 09:31 PM 05-02-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
We aren’t thru the first wave. I don’t think we’ll have a second wave but moreso a continual slow burn

That’s how I see it too.
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O.city 09:31 PM 05-02-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
Fair enough point but at the rate we seen it won't vary enough to be significant in one direction or the other.
I’m just wildly guessing. Maybe it doesn’t continue on a growth pattern after so many cycles, I don’t know.
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O.city 09:32 PM 05-02-2020
Originally Posted by mr. tegu:
That’s how I see it too.
And if that’s the way it goes well blow past 6 figure deaths easily. Sad shit man
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