Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
I mean this is like the third version of the Cavs LeBron has taken to the finals now.
There's no more room to complain about the rest of the team.
He's been a choker with Kyrie, he's been a choker with Wade, now he's a choker with the "these young players will make all the difference!" version of his latest JV team.
He's just a Finals choker. That's his legacy. Get to the finals, bend over, and take it straight up the butt****in' ass from Duncan or Dirk or Steph.
3-6 in the Finals. Cuck Jordan.
Skip Bayless does the super trolling of LeBron schtick better than you. He's literally built a career on it. [Reply]
Originally Posted by dirk digler:
There was a user I believe on r/nba that documented that everytime Lebron shoots a FT he commits a lane violation, in fact he got called on it IIRC in the Pacers series. He still does it and doesn't get called.
Just about every single time. Many players do this, though. There is a lane violation somewhere on a FT on most of them (quite often with the players on the 3PT line and sometimes in the paint). Always funny when they actually decide to call one of them. [Reply]
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
Also LeBron didn't force out Kyrie Irving. He'd gladly take him right now. That guy made that call himself to head up his own team.
He didn't force him out but he certainly didn't help things but not making a commitment to the Cavs. Everyone knows LeBron likes to switch teams when his contracts are up which often makes the star players playing with him want to leave when he does since the team is usually left in shambles. Kyrie didn't feel like waiting for the inevitable so he made a preemptive strike in a way. [Reply]
Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy:
He didn't force him out but he certainly didn't help things but not making a commitment to the Cavs. Everyone knows LeBron likes to switch teams when his contracts are up which often makes the star players playing with him want to leave when he does since the team is usually left in shambles. Kyrie didn't feel like waiting for the inevitable so he made a preemptive strike in a way.
I don't blame Kyrie at all (although he's likely never winning a championship again now unless they get another superstar), but LeBron has no reason to make a long-term commitment to the Cavs or anyone else. In his position, he shouldn't be getting locked down in long term contracts at all at this point of his career and have a team control any part of it. [Reply]
Originally Posted by dirk digler:
There have been several players this year that have been suspended for doing the same thing so it wouldn't be unprecedented.
There was a user I believe on r/nba that documented that everytime Lebron shoots a FT he commits a lane violation, in fact he got called on it IIRC in the Pacers series. He still does it and doesn't get called.
The lane violation is small in the grand scheme of things but part of the story. And I agree on love. But it still goes back to the idea that the suspension was based on a flagrant 2 that should never have been called. Right call, but just another example of absolutely horrendous officiating. I almost welcome it. The officiating was so bad that it might impact 2 games. [Reply]
There is no advantage for LeBron to cede his power to the Cavs by signing a multiyear deal, and there was no reason why Kyrie couldn't do the same while LeBron was there. Kyrie thinks he can be the best player on a title team. He can't. He can be the best player on a bad team, which is what he was before LeBron got there, or a second-level star on a title contender. [Reply]
Originally Posted by staylor26:
I’m going to stop you right there because this is just wrong. Yea the first year they won 55 games without MJ only to lose in the playoffs and prove they were nothing more than an average playoff team, but the next year they were hovering around .500 at the All-Star break until MJ came back. That team never wins anything of significance without Jordan, and he certainly carried them to championships in that sense.
The 93-94 Bulls would have won the Eastern Conference if not for one of the biggest screwjobs in NBA history by Hugh Hollins that cost them a game against the Knicks, who took the Rockets to seven games in the Finals. They were a hell of a lot more than an average playoff team. Just shut the fuck up with your stupidity. It's grotesque. [Reply]
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
Just about every single time. Many players do this, though. There is a lane violation somewhere on a FT on most of them (quite often with the players on the 3PT line and sometimes in the paint). Always funny when they actually decide to call one of them.
agreed. just pointing out to Zilla you can't complain about lane violations when Lebron does it every time he shoots a FT.
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
The lane violation is small in the grand scheme of things but part of the story. And I agree on love. But it still goes back to the idea that the suspension was based on a flagrant 2 that should never have been called. Right call, but just another example of absolutely horrendous officiating. I almost welcome it. The officiating was so bad that it might impact 2 games.
There has been no suspension yet and doubt there will be at least for TT. I would be pretty surprised if either Love or TT will get suspended because it is the Finals. [Reply]
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
There is no advantage for LeBron to cede his power to the Cavs by signing a multiyear deal, and there was no reason why Kyrie couldn't do the same while LeBron was there. Kyrie thinks he can be the best player on a title team. He can't. He can be the best player on a bad team, which is what he was before LeBron got there, or a second-level star on a title contender.
The Celtics with a healthy Kyrie are in the Finals this year. He’s the best player on the team. Who gives a fuck about his failures as a young player on a shit team? [Reply]
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
There is no advantage for LeBron to cede his power to the Cavs by signing a multiyear deal, and there was no reason why Kyrie couldn't do the same while LeBron was there. Kyrie thinks he can be the best player on a title team. He can't. He can be the best player on a bad team, which is what he was before LeBron got there, or a second-level star on a title contender.
What is he on the Celtics? Likely at worst the best player on a team that may or may not lose in the finals? If he plays if it Celts/Warriors. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy:
What is he on the Celtics? Likely at worst the best player on a team that may or may not lose in the finals? If he plays if it Celts/Warriors.
The Celtics, as constructed, are not a title contender. Not in this league. [Reply]
Maybe a lot of you aren't old enough to remember the AFC-NFC gap from the mid-80's to late 90's, but it was cavernous. There were a lot of AFC teams that won the conference that were absolutely no threat to win the Super Bowl. The Celtics are like those AFC teams. The only difference is that they have to beat the team they're facing four times out of seven instead of just once, making the likelihood even more remote.
Hell, even if Cleveland won last night it would be, at best, a repeat of the 2015 Finals, where they lost in six. Short of someone lobbing a 'nade in the Golden State locker room, they aren't a true title contender either. [Reply]
The highest IQ player in the history of the league needs to call timeout when JR's back is turned away from the basket while 5 feet behind the 3-point line. No excuses. Still would have had 1.5 seconds left. LeBron was three feet from the ref. [Reply]
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
The 93-94 Bulls would have won the Eastern Conference if not for one of the biggest screwjobs in NBA history by Hugh Hollins that cost them a game against the Knicks, who took the Rockets to seven games in the Finals. They were a hell of a lot more than an average playoff team. Just shut the **** up with your stupidity. It's grotesque.
Aren’t you the same guy that get on Chiefs fans for blaming the refs and “making excuses” when they still had chances to win? I know I’ve seen it before. That’s all you’re doing in this thread right now. You’re a fucking hypocrite.
Also, we’re the Bulls not hovering around .500 halfway into the next season? The success they had the year before was clearly not sustainable and anybody that thinks they win one championship without Jordan is a fucking moron. [Reply]
