Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.
We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.
Thanks!
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Spoiler!
Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.
California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.
“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”
The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.
The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”
Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.
The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.
The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.
A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.
Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.
“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”
It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.
“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”
On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.
“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”
According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.
More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.
But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.
“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”
CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.
Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.
“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”
Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15:
Yeah, I'm getting there. Jumped on the Peloton for about 15-20 minutes on Saturday, and then spent about a half hour running through 30-40 balls with an 8-iron on Sunday.
With the possibility of no Hockey or Soccer for the kids this summer I may get more than 2 rounds in this year if golf courses open up for our 5 week long golf season lol. [Reply]
They wanted control. They begged, borrowed, bought, and bribed their way into forming the current oligarchy. Everyone knew the downfalls of the creation, yet their greed pushed forward. They shouldn't be allowed to use the general public's ignorance in creating some kind of a victim card.
If they really wanted to do something positive for once, they could wade into Washington with their herd of hired guns and explain to the dip shits in charge why their "bailout" is dog shit for the people who actually produce the food the population depends on. Instead, they'll allow it to proceed as expected and pounce on the replacements from their position of higher leverage when creating their next contracts.
It'll never happen, but I hope they swing in the wind. [Reply]
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
PSA: Do not start taking mega doses of this. Drugs in the same class as famotidine can cause low platelet counts, which will increase your risk of a serious bleed.
What if I dip them in bleach with a Lysol chaser? [Reply]
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
PSA: Do not start taking mega doses of this. Drugs in the same class as famotidine can cause low platelet counts, which will increase your risk of a serious bleed.
dammit hamas I was going to buy a few gallons of pepcid. [Reply]
Originally Posted by dirk digler:
dammit hamas I was going to buy a few gallons of pepcid.
I knew a guy in the Army who was having some stomach issues and kept drinking pepcid or some other similar product to the point he neutralized the acid in his stomach and the food in it basically rotted in his stomach. He spent a few days in the hospital over it.
This guy continually did stupid shit, I'm guessing he has removed himself from the gene pool by now. [Reply]
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
PSA: Do not start taking mega doses of this. Drugs in the same class as famotidine can cause low platelet counts, which will increase your risk of a serious bleed.
I was kind of wondering if that had something to do with the improvement in these cases, with what we know now about coagulopathies it can cause.
One of my buddies is a genius level pharmacist and he brought this up a month ago. No clue how he thought it thru. [Reply]
Originally Posted by O.city:
I was kind of wondering if that had something to do with the improvement in these cases, with what we know now about coagulopathies it can cause.
One of my buddies is a genius level pharmacist and he brought this up a month ago. No clue how he thought it thru.
You don't want thrombocytopenia, ever. In this case, the proposed MOA is antiviral, not as an anticoagulant. [Reply]
Originally Posted by petegz28:
What if I dip them in bleach with a Lysol chaser?
Then you should be good to go, my man, but if you really want to cover all of your bases, substitute the Lysol with ammonia. Then all of your wildest dreams would come true. [Reply]
Well, Sweden is confident, I'll give them that. I still don't see strong evidence that they're flattening out, but I'm still hopeful that they'll be right if only because it'll suggest that we can loosen things up, too.
Newsweek: Sweden's U.S. Ambassador Says Stockholm Is Close to COVID-19 Herd Immunity.https://t.co/hlfzRzP68n
For the first time since our state’s first virus death was reported, AZ reports no new deaths over the past 24 hours. The cauldron of people wanting to end our state’s stay at home order(which is very lax, at best)is about to boil over. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DaFace:
Well, Sweden is confident, I'll give them that. I still don't see strong evidence that they're flattening out, but I'm still hopeful that they'll be right if only because it'll suggest that we can loosen things up, too.
Newsweek: Sweden's U.S. Ambassador Says Stockholm Is Close to COVID-19 Herd Immunity.https://t.co/hlfzRzP68n
Okay but let's keep in mind what curve flattening is for. In our case it was to keep the hospitals from being overrun. I think everyone knows the fastest way to deal with a virus is to let it run its course though that means more sick people and more deaths. But it is still the fastest way.
That being said you can't ever get herd immunity by hiding from the virus. Unless things have changed, our immune systems have got to come into contact with these viruses and such to build an immunity to them. So in a sense Sweden did what we need to start doing more of. It's a balancing act I agree but we have been very lop sided in one direction this entire time. [Reply]