Originally Posted by tk13:
I actually don't know if it's as bad as what Durant did. Durant joined a 73 win team. There might not be another comparison in sports. It'd be like Marvin Harrison joining the 16-0 Patriots.
LeBron did join up with a couple other guys, but what was bad about that was he made it into a big ESPN spectacle and turned his back on his hometown. To me, leaving wasn't as big deal as the way he did it.
So let's compare both teams without LeBron and Durant. Is a team with a core of Curry, Klay, and Draymond better than a team with a core of Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh, and Ray Allen? Posted via Mobile Device [Reply]
Originally Posted by -King-:
So let's compare both teams without LeBron and Durant. Is a team with a core of Curry, Klay, and Draymond better than a team with a core of Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh, and Ray Allen? Posted via Mobile Device
Yes I believe so. Draymond is by far better than Bosh. Ray might be a little better at shooting than Klay but Klays defense is what puts him ahead of Ray and Curry is by far better than D Wade [Reply]
Originally Posted by penbrook:
Yes I believe so. Draymond is by far better than Bosh. Ray might be a little better at shooting than Klay but Klays defense is what puts him ahead of Ray and Curry is by far better than D Wade
How the fuck is Draymond far better than Chris Bosh? And Curry is on par with Wade. Wade is one of the greatest shooting guards in history with very good defense.
I swear the revisionist history on LeBron's teammates is crazy. Posted via Mobile Device [Reply]
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
Did you not witness his team's complete inability to stop Golden State's offense or their best player?
For a guy with a reputation as an elite defender it was a miserable failure. The only game they won was due to an all-time great offensive performance.
LeBron is supposed to be a basketball mastermind, and exists as the de facto GM, HC and Superstar for his own team. His entire strategy for beating the Warriors, from player acquisition to gameplan to execution was WRONG. Throw in an epic fourth quarter choke job that would have had the series at 3-2 right now, and it was definitely a failure.
Remind me how the greatest offense in NFL history was beaten in the 2001 Super Bowl. It sure wasn't because someone tried to outscore them.
As I've been saying for weeks now...LeBron has been hoisted by his own petard. If he had swallowed his ego in Miami he could have had the career he and all his dickriders wanted so badly. Instead he's going to go down as the biggest Finals loser in NBA history.
Holy shit... you actually are worse at basketball. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RobBlake:
What he did was still bad and shouldn't be celebrated, but Durant def. trumped what he did. I stil lcannot believe James did that tv special.. how egotistical was that.
I bet the boys and girls club who got FIVE MILLION DOLLARS out of it can't believe he did that either. [Reply]
Originally Posted by tk13:
LeBron had an unbelievable series. He's going to continue to deny it, but I actually do think he looked tired at times tonight. Just lapses where he got beat and didn't hustle. Dude's been in the Finals 7 straight years. That's an amazing achievement. He's logged way more minutes than anyone else though. I don't know how you offset that.
Way too much usage considering the mileage on his legs. In every game he practically played two or three quarters in the first quarter. Granted that's his fault. If he hadn't played gm, he could have built the depth he needed. If he didn't fire his head coach, he might have had four other guys on the team putting effort on both ends of the floor. But nonetheless... I remember turning to my friend and seeing lebrons effort in the first quarter and saying "he's going to be totally gassed by the end of the game." [Reply]
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
Way too much usage considering the mileage on his legs. In every game he practically played two or three quarters in the first quarter. Granted that's his fault. If he hadn't played gm, he could have built the depth he needed. If he didn't fire his head coach, he might have had four other guys on the team putting effort on both ends of the floor. But nonetheless... I remember turning to my friend and seeing lebrons effort in the first quarter and saying "he's going to be totally gassed by the end of the game."
That is design of the offense where everything goes through him. That's why he didn't play in D in the series ( as JVG noted several times) so he had that energy for offense. But like Westbrook he is able to rack up stats by dominating the ball so running a more team orientated offense isn't an option. But hey, his nut huggers can now point to stat lines and yell GOAT so who cares about winning. [Reply]
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
The Korver move is consistent with Lue's run & gun philosophy which he pushed for last year. It is a Channing Frye move. Lousy defenders who space the floor. Lue specifically commented after he was hired that he wanted to make the Cavs play with a lot more pace.
Williams, Williams, and Bogut were brought in because the Cavs depth was lousy and the Cavs were struggling to compete not just with Golden State, but with anybody. I don't take much stock in those moves because they brought in whomever they could afford. The Cavs team is representative of Lue's philosophy. Zack Lowe wrote a terrific piece on the Cavs earlier today and he's right -- the Cavs play better when they slow the pace down. And I don't understand how playing in a sprint was considered the best way to beat Durant.
I thought they played better when spreading the floor and in transition you just can't do that with GS though. The only way they could stay with GS is slowing the game down, having an once in a lifetime offensive performance, playing physical and Mike Callahan being the ref. [Reply]
