I'm not trading a top corner for a draft pick. It's stupid and you should feel stupid for even suggesting it as a possibility. Veach says he wants to get younger. We have a top 5 corner/ turnover machine in Peters. [Reply]
Originally Posted by TambaBerry:
I'm not trading a top corner for a draft pick. It's stupid and you should feel stupid for even suggesting it as a possibility. Veach says he wants to get younger. We have a top 5 corner/ turnover machine in Peters.
I find it highly unlikely as well, but stranger things have happened... and none of us knows what Veach is thinking [Reply]
Originally Posted by Coach:
And those who are touting that the Chiefs should sign Talib....
No thanks. He's on the wrong side of 30 and he's what you'd call a "depreciating value" in the CB market.
Talib is willing to tackle and can still cover, he is worth a 2-3 year deal, that is why I don't want to see him leave Denver. The real issue with your D is the front not getting pressure to help out the back end.
I think if Cleveland is willing to give up the #4 pick in the draft for Peters and maybe your 2nd or 3rd, the target would be a pass rusher like Davenport or Chubb if there. I don't see Cleveland giving away it's fourth overall pick for Peters straight up just based on Jimmy Johnson's draft day trade charts. Peters was taken with the 18th pick in the draft if GM's go by spot taken to determine value. It is hard to monetize his draft pick value especially when your talking a top 5 pick. [Reply]
Well, according to like 75% of the dumbshits on this board, the Chiefs were just supposed flat out cut Peters' ass after his pseudo-ejection during a game this year. Because they just "had enough."
Interesting that they're all running on silent or have changed their position to "we should trade him!" [Reply]
Originally Posted by KranzDictum:
Talib is willing to tackle and can still cover, he is worth a 2-3 year deal, that is why I don't want to see him leave Denver. The real issue with your D is the front not getting pressure to help out the back end.
I think if Cleveland is willing to give up the #4 pick in the draft for Peters and maybe your 2nd or 3rd, the target would be a pass rusher like Davenport or Chubb if there. I don't see Cleveland giving away it's fourth overall pick for Peters straight up just based on Jimmy Johnson's draft day trade charts. Peters was taken with the 18th pick in the draft if GM's go by spot taken to determine value. It is hard to monetize his draft pick value especially when your talking a top 5 pick.
While he is willing to tackle and still can cover, I'm not a big fan of spending sums of money on CB's who are on the wrong side of 30. Because some CB's decline gracefully (Terrance Newman is one), some fall off of the cliff as well. That being said, I wouldn't be surprised if Denver decides to hold onto him anyways, which would make this discussion moot (which I hope it happens).
I agree with you that KC's issue is the front seven. When you are ranked 25th in the NFL on rush defense, that's going to pose a lot of problems. Not to mention that KC is ranked 24th in the NFL on sacks.
KC needs to targeting their front seven (except Ragland and Houston) to resolve these issues. [Reply]
I was cool with the Talib idea until we managed to haul Fuller in. Not anymore. Fuller is the better long term option, and probably the better short term option given Talib could slide at any moment. [Reply]
Originally Posted by O.city:
Similarly I’d imagine the chiefs aren’t open to trading Peters
I disagree.
The new breed of GM’s across the league are very different than the old school, older men that they’ve replaced. As we’ve seen in the last year alone, teams are more aggressively trading assets for picks. We’ve seen NBA style salary dumps and more player-for-player trades.
We just saw the Redskins trade their best and youngest secondary player in a deal for a QB.
Things are beginning to change in the NFL and with the continuation of a very healthy rise in the salary cap, I’d be surprised if all but the best QB’s are off limits.
Outside of Pat Mahomes and Eric Berry, no one is safe in this new environment. [Reply]