Originally Posted by Sorce:
Was entertaining watching 2 teams combining for 0 defense.
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I used to be kind of high on Oklahoma State because they have 3 really good players, but then I saw that they damn near lead the country in fouls per game yet still play horrid defense. [Reply]
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It'll be ridiculous if the Kansas coach isn't elected into the Hall of Fame this year.
Kansas did not technically clinch the Big 12 on Saturday. The Jayhawks still have four games left. So anything could happen, I guess.
But, yeah, that’s a wrap.
Seems clear now.
Kansas is going to win a 13th straight regular-season Big 12 title.
There’s no way to conclude anything other than that after the Jayhawks completed a regular-season sweep of Baylor via a 67-65 victory inside the Ferrell Center. Because Kansas is now 24-3 overall, 12-2 in the Big 12. And that’s good enough for a three-game lead with, again, just four games left on the schedule, two of which will be played in Allen Fieldhouse. At this point, the only way the Jayhawks wouldn’t win a 13th straight league title would be if they closed on a four-game losing streak while Baylor closed on a four-game winning streak. The latter is unlikely. The former is unimaginable. So congratulations, Bill Self, you’re about to add another trophy.
No school has ever won more league titles consecutively.
That’s in the history of college basketball.
Yes, UCLA once also won 13 straight -- from 1967 to 1979. But John Wooden only won nine of those whereas all 13 of KU’s belong to Self. Which is why it’ll be surprising, not to mention ridiculous, if he isn’t elected into the Naismith Hall of Fame this year.
Self is a finalist.
That was announced Saturday.
Bill Self’s unprecedented run of conference titles should make him a Hall lock.
His résumé features a national championship, two Final Fours and eight Elite Eights at three different schools -- first at Tulsa, then at Illinois and Kansas. He’s about to coach in the NCAA Tournament for the 19th consecutive year. And not one active Hall of Famer has even sniffed Self’s string of conference championships.
Duke’s Mike Krzyzewski and Kentucky’s John Calipari have never won more than five straight. North Carolina’s Roy Williams and Michigan State’s Tom Izzo have never won more than four straight. Syracuse’s Jim Boeheim and Louisville’s Rick Pitino have never won more than two straight. And before you try to tell me none of this is too impressive because the Big 12 isn’t all that impressive, please note that the Big 12 is the nation’s top-rated conference, according to KenPom, and that this is the fourth straight season it has been rated first at KenPom.
During this 13-year stretch, the Big 12 has been KenPom’s top-rated league five times, a top-two league eight times and a top-three league 10 times. If that makes the Big 12 weak, as one bro tried to suggest Saturday on Twitter, I would hate to see strong. And yet every season, for what will soon be 13 straight seasons, the Jayhawks finish atop the Big 12 standings -- and usually alone.
It really is an amazing accomplishment.
Consider it in this context: The SEC actually is weak, relative to the Big 12, and Calipari has been great at Kentucky. But he’s only won four of the past seven SEC titles. Self has won 12 of the past 12 Big 12 titles. And he’s just one more win (or Baylor loss) from making it 13 of the past 13.
So, sure, feel free to discount it if you’re comfortable sounding stupid. But also understand this: What Bill Self has done and is doing is literally unprecedented in college basketball history. And whenever his streak is finally snapped, I believe, we’ll never see another coach anywhere do something like this again.
I would like to know how many Big 12 teams other than KU have been ranked #1 in the last 13 years. I would also like to know how many combined weeks teams other than KU were ranked in the Top 10 during the last 13 years. I took a peak at Rupp Rafters and, predictably, they think the Big 12 is a weak basketball league, and that the SEC is the toughest basketball league. Other than Florida, I can't think of any other SEC school that would have been ranked in the Top 10 during our streak. The last time MU was ranked high was their last year in the Big 12.
So, I think MU, Texas, OSU, OU, WVU, Baylor, and maybe ISU, have all been ranked in the Top 10 during our streak, and OU, and maybe MU and Texas have also been ranked #1. Does that sound right? I am too tired to look it up now, but probably will this week just for my own curiosity.
Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic:
I would like to know how many Big 12 teams other than KU have been ranked #1 in the last 13 years. I would also like to know how many combined weeks teams other than KU were ranked in the Top 10 during the last 13 years. I took a peak at Rupp Rafters and, predictably, they think the Big 12 is a weak basketball league, and that the SEC is the toughest basketball league. Other than Florida, I can't think of any other SEC school that would have been ranked in the Top 10 during our streak. The last time MU was ranked high was their last year in the Big 12.
So, I think MU, Texas, OSU, OU, WVU, Baylor, and maybe ISU, have all been ranked in the Top 10 during our streak, and OU, and maybe MU and Texas have also been ranked #1. Does that sound right? I am too tired to look it up now, but probably will this week just for my own curiosity.
Any thoughts?
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Was KSU top 10 with Beasley? Right before they lost to NU? [Reply]
Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic:
I would like to know how many Big 12 teams other than KU have been ranked #1 in the last 13 years. I would also like to know how many combined weeks teams other than KU were ranked in the Top 10 during the last 13 years. I took a peak at Rupp Rafters and, predictably, they think the Big 12 is a weak basketball league, and that the SEC is the toughest basketball league. Other than Florida, I can't think of any other SEC school that would have been ranked in the Top 10 during our streak. The last time MU was ranked high was their last year in the Big 12.
So, I think MU, Texas, OSU, OU, WVU, Baylor, and maybe ISU, have all been ranked in the Top 10 during our streak, and OU, and maybe MU and Texas have also been ranked #1. Does that sound right? I am too tired to look it up now, but probably will this week just for my own curiosity.
Any thoughts?
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From the article right above your post:
Originally Posted by :
During this 13-year stretch, the Big 12 has been KenPom’s top-rated league five times, a top-two league eight times and a top-three league 10 times. If that makes the Big 12 weak, as one bro tried to suggest Saturday on Twitter, I would hate to see strong.
Originally Posted by Pants:
From the article right above your post:
The article was not the only inspiration for my post. Rupp Rafters claiming that the SEC was a better basketball conference also played a part.
Stating league ranks for KenPom's conference rankings doesn't answer any of my questions. After stating that I wonder about Big 12 schools being #1 during the streak, and wondering how many weeks Big 12 teams were ranked in the Top 10 during the streak, I list schools from my memory being ranked, top 10, etc.
Maybe there was another point, that I am missing, to you quoting the original article. I am tired so it's entirely possible that you are making a clever statement, and it's over my head.
Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic:
The article was not the only inspiration for my post. Rupp Rafters claiming that the SEC was a better basketball conference also played a part.
Stating league ranks for KenPom's conference rankings doesn't answer any of my questions. After stating that I wonder about Big 12 schools being #1 during the streak, and wondering how many weeks Big 12 teams were ranked in the Top 10 during the streak, I list schools from my memory being ranked, top 10, etc.
Maybe there was another point, that I am missing, to you quoting the original article. I am tired so it's entirely possible that you are making a clever statement, and it's over my head.
Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic:
I would like to know how many Big 12 teams other than KU have been ranked #1 in the last 13 years. I would also like to know how many combined weeks teams other than KU were ranked in the Top 10 during the last 13 years. I took a peak at Rupp Rafters and, predictably, they think the Big 12 is a weak basketball league, and that the SEC is the toughest basketball league. Other than Florida, I can't think of any other SEC school that would have been ranked in the Top 10 during our streak. The last time MU was ranked high was their last year in the Big 12.
So, I think MU, Texas, OSU, OU, WVU, Baylor, and maybe ISU, have all been ranked in the Top 10 during our streak, and OU, and maybe MU and Texas have also been ranked #1. Does that sound right? I am too tired to look it up now, but probably will this week just for my own curiosity.
Any thoughts?
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A&M was ranked as high as 6th during Acie Law's senior year [Reply]
Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic:
The article was not the only inspiration for my post. Rupp Rafters claiming that the SEC was a better basketball conference also played a part.
Stating league ranks for KenPom's conference rankings doesn't answer any of my questions. After stating that I wonder about Big 12 schools being #1 during the streak, and wondering how many weeks Big 12 teams were ranked in the Top 10 during the streak, I list schools from my memory being ranked, top 10, etc.
Maybe there was another point, that I am missing, to you quoting the original article. I am tired so it's entirely possible that you are making a clever statement, and it's over my head.
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It's not an argument worth having, I tried 2 years ago and got banned from the thread for "trolling". KU fans hold this streak near and dear to their hearts and any discussion about it is like you're attacking their family members [Reply]
Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic:
I would like to know how many Big 12 teams other than KU have been ranked #1 in the last 13 years. I would also like to know how many combined weeks teams other than KU were ranked in the Top 10 during the last 13 years. I took a peak at Rupp Rafters and, predictably, they think the Big 12 is a weak basketball league, and that the SEC is the toughest basketball league. Other than Florida, I can't think of any other SEC school that would have been ranked in the Top 10 during our streak. The last time MU was ranked high was their last year in the Big 12.
So, I think MU, Texas, OSU, OU, WVU, Baylor, and maybe ISU, have all been ranked in the Top 10 during our streak, and OU, and maybe MU and Texas have also been ranked #1. Does that sound right? I am too tired to look it up now, but probably will this week just for my own curiosity.
Any thoughts?
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Here are some notables from AP Polls (however not all top 10's):
Texas made it to #2 it 05-06. They kept that for the first 5 weeks of the season, but never jumped to #1.
OSU was ranked top 10 the entire 04-05 season, reaching #3 at its peak but never #1 (TTU was even ranked that season).
08-09 Oklahoma was top 10 the entire season except the preseason (#12) and the first couple weeks of non-con - reaching #2. Mizzou also reached the top 10 that year (in the BigXII).
In 09-10 KSU was top 10 as was Texas. Texas held a #1 ranking for two weeks of the season.
10-11 again KSU was top 10 with Texas, Mizzou and Baylor.
13-14 Iowa State top 10 (with Baylor and OSU).
Oklahoma held #1 in 15-16 for 3 consecutive weeks. WVU was top 10 as was Iowa State.
Baylor held #1 for a single week this season.
So only OU, Texas and Baylor have held #1 during the streak. [Reply]
