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Nzoner's Game Room>***** Official 2016/2017 Kansas Basketball Repository Thread *****
saphojunkie 12:22 PM 04-07-2016
Now with 800% more crapshoot!

Roster:

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SCHEDULE

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Notable dates:

Late Night in the Phog
Oct 1 6:30 PM
Allen Fieldhouse
Students enter at 4:30PM, general public at 5:00 PM

Champions Classic:
Nov 15, 2016 - Madison Square Garden. KU vs. Duke

CBE Hall of Fame Classic:
semis & finals at Sprint Center in KC.
Nov 21 - 22 (early games date & time ).

Armed Forces Classic
Joint Base Pearl Harbor-Hickham, Hawai`i: Nov. 11 (ESPN)
Indiana vs. Kansas
Arizona vs. Michigan State

BIG 12/SEC CHALLENGE
Kansas vs. Kentucky
Rupp Arena, Lexington, KY
Jan 28, 2017



Let's go get Lucky 13. And a damn National Championship.
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BigRedChief 08:20 AM 07-03-2016
So does everyone agree that Self had killed it with this years recruiting class? One of his best ever, at least on paper?
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saphojunkie 10:19 AM 07-03-2016
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
So does everyone agree that Self had killed it with this years recruiting class? One of his best ever, at least on paper?
Nothing will probably ever top Wiggins, Embiid, Selden, Greene, Sviatoslav, and Mason, but I actually think this is a great class.

The fact that Udoka has to stay two years is huge. As is Udoka.
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Buehler445 10:36 AM 07-03-2016
Originally Posted by saphojunkie:
Nothing will probably ever top Wiggins, Embiid, Selden, Greene, Sviatoslav, and Mason, but I actually think this is a great class.

The fact that Udoka has to stay two years is huge. As is Udoka.
Chalmers, Rush, Wright is pretty fucking good.
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Prison Bitch 11:42 AM 07-03-2016
Originally Posted by saphojunkie:
Nothing will probably ever top Wiggins, Embiid, Selden, Greene, Sviatoslav, and Mason, but I actually think this is a great class.

The fact that Udoka has to stay two years is huge. As is Udoka.
Svi was in the next class.


I've got Bill's cell phone # by the way. Just because I'm me.
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KC_Connection 12:01 PM 07-03-2016
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
Svi was in the next class.


I've got Bill's cell phone # by the way. Just because I'm me.
Does he know you trash him on CP for building the most successful program in the country over the last decade+?
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BigRedChief 12:03 PM 07-03-2016
Originally Posted by saphojunkie:
Nothing will probably ever top Wiggins, Embiid, Selden, Greene, Sviatoslav, and Mason, but I actually think this is a great class.

The fact that Udoka has to stay two years is huge. As is Udoka.
Embild didn't do anything special. Wiggins played like shit for 1/2 his time here. Greene has not been all that much here except for brief periods. Svi was a different class. Mason is the only one that has worked out for at least 1 whole season.

I agree that they had talent. My criteria is not just talent but positive impact on the program. I get we need the one and dones to remain competitive as an elite team. But, there is also what they accomplished during their one year. Did we get multiple years out of good players like Mason.

Chalmers and Rush seems to be a better choice to me.
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Prison Bitch 01:19 PM 07-03-2016
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
Does he know you trash him on CP for building the most successful program in the country over the last decade+?
Both statements are false.
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Chief Pagan 02:00 PM 07-03-2016
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
Embild didn't do anything special. Wiggins played like shit for 1/2 his time here. Greene has not been all that much here except for brief periods.
In the tournament, Embiid was literally a non-factor. But I remember him being a major rim protector up until he got injured and that's just one of those things that happen. Especially to 7-footers.

Wiggins was disappointing given how much he was obviously capable of.
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KC_Connection 02:29 PM 07-03-2016
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
Both statements are false.
If only.
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KC_Connection 02:36 PM 07-03-2016
Originally Posted by Chief Pagan:
In the tournament, Embiid was literally a non-factor.
When you say a literal non-factor, you're referencing the fact that he didn't actually play in the tournament, right?

Embiid is the most talented prospect that Self has recruited here (and probably will remain so until Self leaves) and was a massive impact player for KU until he got hurt. He actually led the NCAA in Box Plus Minus that year, a list that includes players such as Draymond Green, Anthony Davis, and Karl Anthony Towns over the past few years.
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RealSNR 04:25 PM 07-03-2016
If you're wondering how crazy the NBA salaries are this year, Cole Aldrich just got 3 years $22 million from the Timberwolves.

He's definitely gotten better since he entered the league, but that's still freakin messed up
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BigRedChief 05:12 PM 07-03-2016
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
Embiid is the most talented prospect that Self has recruited here (and probably will remain so until Self leaves) and was a massive impact player for KU until he got hurt.
Massive? Maybe if he didn't get hurt.

I'm not big on elevating players impact on KU based on their potential talent but what they did on the court wearing the KU jersey.
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KC_Connection 05:34 PM 07-03-2016
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
Massive? Maybe if he didn't get hurt.
Enormous, substantial, gigantic. His impact that season was all of the above.

I'm a huge Chalmers backer, but Embiid is the best and most talented player Self has ever recruited here and it isn't even close.
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KC_Connection 05:36 PM 07-03-2016
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
If you're wondering how crazy the NBA salaries are this year, Cole Aldrich just got 3 years $22 million from the Timberwolves.

He's definitely gotten better since he entered the league, but that's still freakin messed up
Great deal for the TWolves. He's a better player than Biyombo who got 50M more.
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Prison Bitch 07:52 PM 07-03-2016
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
Enormous, substantial, gigantic. His impact that season was all of the above.

I'm a huge Chalmers backer, but Embiid is the best and most talented player Self has ever recruited here and it isn't even close.
It's very debatable if he's more talented than Wiggins, and even more debatable that "it isn't even close"
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