Originally Posted by Dagnabit:
Well this is weird. I must have watched this thing 6 times last night, and it is way too polished to be a fan fake.
I can't find it now.
It starts off with a schematic of the death star and communications between rebels chattering in the back ground.
It reveals Vader walking like a badass, leading troopers and a commander, then it has a graphic of the original, cheesmo holo-death star that was generated on Yavin base.
Last shot is Vader from behind, looking at what I assume is a ship taking off.
Interesting. I knew that Vader was to be shown as a badass in this film and according to one recent report, it was far too graphic for the Disney brass, so they're "lightening" up that scene.
From my point of view, everything changed after the massive success of TFA. The idea of the Anthologies/Star Wars stories was they'd be much different than the Episodes. Different feel, different vibe. R1 was supposed to be a war movie and it sounds like Edwards delivered.
Bob Iger and Alan Horn changed the trajectory after TFA, making unlikely that future directors and movies will be allowed to veer of the proven course. [Reply]
Also, even though this is a spoiler thread, I'm putting this in spoiler tags because if true, changes the dynamic somewhat of ANH.
Spoiler!
I recently heard that with the reshoots and changes that Obi Wan Kenobi will now make an appearance in R1. If true, this truly opens the door to the Obi Wan trilogy because it'll show that he wasn't continuously on Tattoine for 19 years straight
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
Also, even though this is a spoiler thread, I'm putting this in spoiler tags because if true, changes the dynamic somewhat of ANH.
Spoiler!
I recently heard that with the reshoots and changes that Obi Wan Kenobi will now make an appearance in R1. If true, this truly opens the door to the Obi Wan trilogy because it'll show that he wasn't continuously on Tattoine for 19 years straight
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
I've always thought that to mean Luke, even though he later says "HE is here".
I never thought he meant Luke, but now that you mention it maybe the two of them together made him feel something from when Luke was born (Obi-Wan was there for the birth)....
In hindsight one thing that bugged me was when Luke was on his torpedo run and Vader finally had him locked in that Vader could tell the "the Force was strong with this one", but couldn't recognize his own son? I know that's nitpicky, but I always thought of that after the big reveal in Empire. [Reply]
I've always interpreted that line as being a reference to obi-wan. Vader has no idea about Luke (or Leia, obviously) being his offspring at that point. He recognizes the presence of his old master. Luke at that point is barely even aware of the force. It takes Ben's death for Luke to really begin to take that next step as a force sensitive. He's not even a blip on anybody's radar prior to the deathstar run, the first time Vader senses him (and I think still has no idea of their relationship).
The thing that's never made sense to me is leaving Luke with the Skywalker name. Once it gets out who destroyed the deathstar, Vader wouldn't even need the force to connect the dots. 'Hey that kid who's about the right age has my old last name. Hmm.' Good work there, rebel conspirators. [Reply]
Things could change, but every bit of side-filler in existence between IV and V continuously points to Vader not having even a marginal clue that "the young rebel who destroyed the death star" is his son Luke at the time of Epi IV. [Reply]
