If you think that they are going to be as good as Albert, you keep Albert. He's finally come into his own and is playing good ball and just entering his prime.
You don't sign Alex Smith and try to protect him with a rookie offensive tackle if you are attempting to win now and get the fan base motivated again.
Hahahaha I've heard so much on geno bust smith on this board, I'm gonna love the meltdown come draft day lmao [Reply]
Originally Posted by O.city:
And just to increase flaming, I'm actually jumping on the star bandwagon. Star, Poe, and devito with Houston Hali and DJ would be interesting.
Like I said flame away
I'd be fine with someone in the front 7 with the first pick, but absolutely **** going OL. [Reply]
Originally Posted by SNR:
How was that even CLOSE to what I was ****ing asking? :-)
You claim Joeckel/Fisher are the best players in this draft, presumedly taking into account positional value and all that other good stuff. On the topic of positional value, I asked, "As Geno relates to the top prospects as a QB, at what position would athletes with the ranking of Joeckel/Fisher have to play for Geno to receive a better ranking than them on your big board?"
I'll explain again. Geno as a QB has his ranking on your big board. Fisher/Joeckel have theirs as OTs. Now, compared to other OTs in other draft classes, and comparing those players to THEIR draft classes, if players at the rankings of Joeckel/Fisher played say... WR... would they still be ranked ahead of Geno?
I ask, because surely you wouldn't come across the Luke Joeckel of OGs and say we should take him before Geno, right? So when do you stop with this nonsense? Geno, by the nature of being the top QB in a draft class, is worth WAY MORE than a Geno Smith who plays OT.
So... (I can't believe I'm doing this for you) if you answer my question, your response will take the form of a POSITION.
What would Joeckel have to play to be outranked by Geno?
Depends on the team and the need.
And I don't believe Geno is a better prospect simply because he is a QB. I think the QB has to be graded out highly, which I don't believe is the case with him.
Joeckel and Fisher are better at their position than Geno is at his, as seen by what we've seen the last few months from everyone.
QB is the most important position on the board, but I'm not taking the top rated QB in the class simply because he's the top rated QB. I want to be sure he's going to be a franchise caliber QB, which apparently we don't.
QB, LT, pass rusher..and then WR/shutdown CB. Those are what you take if you have a top 5 pick.
But if you have one of those positions that your coach believes in and he doesn't believe a position in front of another is going to be as good, then you go down the line. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
I wouldn't be surprised if we draft a LT and keep Albert regardless.
QB is not a need now. We have our guy. And he's going to be here awhile. Let it go.
Holy fucking contradiction.
So we can draft LT which isn't a need right now and still keep Albert.
But we can't draft a QB which isn't a need right now and still keep Alex Smith?
... Albert who is younger than Smith and has started 87% of his games since being drafted as opposed to Alex Smith's 67% (due to injury and getting benched for guys like Shaun Hill and JT OSullivan) [Reply]
Originally Posted by O.city:
Just read florio saying he's hearing the tackles are going to surprisingly drop and most have fisher>joeckel at this point.
Who te he'll is going to go high in this draft? Seems like no one wants anyone in the top 10
Yes Fisher > Joeckel if we dont draft Geno. [Reply]
And I don't believe Geno is a better prospect simply because he is a QB. I think the QB has to be graded out highly, which I don't believe is the case with Geno.
That's insane. Under that metric, there's absolutely no good reason at all for the Dolphins to take Tannehill or the Falcons to take Ryan.
Ravens and Flacco.
Bucs and Freeman.
Panthers and Newton.
You're making an assumption that you should not when you say the Chiefs "apparently don't" think Geno is a franchise calibre QB. They (and every other team in the NFL at this point) are strongly vested in not letting anyone know what their board actually looks like. Maybe they do. Maybe they don't. We literally have no way of knowing right now.
We might get an idea the weekend before the draft, when somehow Goose Gosselin always seems to compile good information. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Depends on the team and the need.
And I don't believe Geno is a better prospect simply because he is a QB. I think the QB has to be graded out highly, which I don't believe is the case with him.
Joeckel and Fisher are better at their position than Geno is at his, as seen by what we've seen the last few months from everyone.
QB is the most important position on the board, but I'm not taking the top rated QB in the class simply because he's the top rated QB. I want to be sure he's going to be a franchise caliber QB, which apparently we don't.
QB, LT, pass rusher..and then WR/shutdown CB. Those are what you take if you have a top 5 pick.
But if you have one of those positions that your coach believes in and he doesn't believe a position in front of another is going to be as good, then you go down the line.
Who do you think would help this team more, Sam Bradford or Joe Thomas ? [Reply]
Originally Posted by -King-:
Holy ****ing contradiction.
So we can draft LT which isn't a need right now and still keep Albert.
But we can't draft a QB which isn't a need right now and still keep Alex Smith?
... Albert who is younger than Smith and has started 87% of his games since being drafted as opposed to Alex Smith's 67% (due to injury and getting benched for guys like Shaun Hill and JT OSullivan)
Thats why once we draft Geno more than likely he will be seeing playing time in his rookie season. [Reply]
