Originally Posted by OKchiefs:
This board is full of idiots. The 2019 draft was only marginally better than 2018. Ballwashers will excuse Veach because we didn't have a 1st round pick, except that shit doesn't fly because Veach is the dumbass who traded a 1st, 2nd, and $100 million for a bum. Brett Veach is trash
Marginally better? :-) Why because Hardman and Thornhill aren’t All-Pros 5 games in despite already looking like really good picks? Oh that’s right it’s because Veach didn’t get a corner to shut you the fuck up, that must be it!
You’re easily one of the biggest idiots on this board. Miserable pillowbitergot. [Reply]
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Nobody is saying they’re great players. They’re certainly not the problem though.
The problem is we only have 3 core guys and they’ve been inconsistent at best.
One is a liability against the run and now he’s hurt.
Another went from a guy that’s been consistently one of the best edge rushers in the NFL to what we’ve seen these last 5 weeks whether it be due to injury, playing on a new defense in a new scheme, or a combination of the two.
The third hasn’t quite played like a core guy up until this past week. Unfortunately for him, the two huge plays he made didn’t result in a win.
When you have all that and nobody that fits that bill at CB and LB, you get what you’ve had these first 5 weeks.
That doesn’t change the fact that those other guys have been good moves by Veach that are being ignored. You can’t have great players at every spot.
Most of them were lateral moves at best. Breeland was a big upgrade as was Mathieu.
I don't know how in the **** people are high on Wilson. I guess when you're used to trash LB's a below average back up caliber player is impressive. [Reply]
Veach has made a lot of bad moves, to this point people have a right to be annoyed with him. He's spent something like 300 million dollars for not much of a return. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Mecca:
Veach has made a lot of bad moves, to this point people have a right to be annoyed with him. He's spent something like 300 million dollars for not much of a return.
Yea he’s Grigson 2.0 right? We’re just awful everywhere. No good moves to speak of.
Fucking dumbass. You’ve been crying for days. [Reply]
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Maybe it’s the fact that he’s playing pretty well and made plays in just about every game so far on a pretty cheap deal.
You sound like a more that thinks that won’t give credit for a move unless the guy is a good to great starter.
Okafor, Ogbah, and Wilson were clearly good moves by Veach. Get a fucking clue and maybe you could see that yourself.
Those aren't the moves that are pissing people off, even though Damian Wilson is pretty eh.
It's that Anthony Hitchens is paid like a star and plays like a scrub. Frank Clark, Sammy Watkins, it's a lot of money for marginal production. [Reply]
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Yea he’s Grigson 2.0 right? We’re just awful everywhere. No good moves to speak of.
Fucking dumbass. You’ve been crying for days.
Be realistic for a moment, what exactly has Brett Veach done to make the team good?
The best players were already here when he was hired for the job. From his own mouth he said the run d needed to be fixed 2 years ago and I'm still waiting on that....he's spent a lot of money for marginal production from several players.
It's not rainbows and sunshine right now, the jury is very much out on if he can perform this job at a decent level. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Mecca:
Be realistic for a moment, what exactly has Brett Veach done to make the team good?
The best players were already here when he was hired for the job. From his own mouth he said the run d needed to be fixed 2 years ago and I'm still waiting on that....he's spent a lot of money for marginal production from several players.
It's not rainbows and sunshine right now, the jury is very much out on if he can perform this job at a decent level.
You’re right he’s had no part in this team being 17-5 over the last two seasons. He has done absolutely nothing.
Nnadi, Hardman, Thornhill, Breeland, Watkins, Tyrann, Ogbah, Okafor, Ward, etc. haven’t played a role in any of those wins. Everybody he’s added has made us worse.
This team is one of the best in the league, probably the best with everybody healthy. How good do you expect them to be? How much better do you expect Veach to make the team?
I’m not saying he’s perfect, or that he’s proven himself, but this narrative that it’s just been all bad and he’s been Grigson 2.0 that you’re trying to push makes you look really fucking stupid to anybody who doesn’t have sand in their vagina because of one loss. [Reply]
Originally Posted by staylor26:
You’re right he’s had no part in this team being 17-5 over the last two seasons. He has done absolutely nothing.
Nnadi, Hardman, Thornhill, Breeland, Watkins, Tyrann, Ogbah, Okafor, Ward, etc. haven’t played a role in any of those wins. Everybody he’s added has made us worse.
Is the defense better or worse from the day he was hired? Simple question. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Superturtle: :-) "He's not Ryan Grigson you fucking dumbasses BKARGHDHHUUTF"
Wow. So he's not performing his job as badly as the worst GM in modern sports history. Conglaturation!!!
The only reason I even used that comparison was Grigson basically got hired when they were drafting Luck and got a super lucky hit in TY Hilton and rode that to an AFC championship game.
No one thought he was that bad until way after the fact because Luck kept bailing out his bad decisions by winning games. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Mecca:
Is the defense better or worse from the day he was hired? Simple question.
Do you think it’s fair to make final judgment on a new defense consisting of a completely new staff, scheme, and like 7 new starters 5 games into the season?
Simple question.
And I, like most people, feel that the defense is much better on paper than it was at this time last year. The passing defense already looks better. Can’t acknowledge that though have to only bring up the run d, right?
I’m not saying some of the criticisms/concerns aren’t justified. I’m saying you’re not being the least bit fair because your butthurt about how things played out on Sunday night and it’s led to ridiculous hyperbole. [Reply]
His good moves are marginal improvements at best and his bad moves are trending towards disastrous. That's the problem. Mathieu is the one exception. [Reply]
