Originally Posted by Nightfyre:
My plan for my stock market investments is to play the vulture. Right now is the time to be cash rich.
While we all have different philosophies and needs, based on my limited knowledge, this is a risky and hard strategy to nail. Most studies say trying to "time the market" like this is very hard for the average investor and even for most "pros."
And example is the recent market fluctuations after Brexit. If you went cash heavy after a couple of down days, you sold when the DOW was near 17200. You then missed the current run to 18300. So many panicked and sold lower and if you're wanting to get back into the market now, will buy high. I realize this isn't true for all sectors but just an example of trying to "time the market."
I also am not looking for yearly income currently from any investments like my brokerage account. Doesn't mean with gains I won't sell some things at times, but I am not looking to make yearly moves for income. If I was, I may take more risk to "time the market," but currently that strategy is very risky IMO, or at least I am not comfortable with it. [Reply]
I have to share this even though I don't really want to but it's just toooo funny. I bought this penny stock about 3 years ago with a hope of good long term gains. So this company just didn't move up the whole time . in fact it decreased about 50% but I felt like it still had potential. Finally yesterday I had made up my mind I wasn't waiting any longer because I found a real winner I wanted to move that money into so I SOLD. TODAY that company announced a million dollar contract with the US military and the stock moved up 35 %. That's exactly the ****ing news I had been waiting on for the last year. If I had just waited one more ****ing day ! :-):-):-) [Reply]
Originally Posted by Hog Farmer:
I have to share this even though I don't really want to but it's just toooo funny. I bought this penny stock about 3 years ago with a hope of good long term gains. So this company just didn't move up the whole time . in fact it decreased about 50% but I felt like it still had potential. Finally yesterday I had made up my mind I wasn't waiting any longer because I found a real winner I wanted to move that money into so I SOLD. TODAY that company announced a million dollar contract with the US military and the stock moved up 35 %. That's exactly the ****ing news I had been waiting on for the last year. If I had just waited one more ****ing day ! :-):-):-)
So , I have determined the BEST course for long term investment is still real estate. I've bought 90% of my rental properties from sellers that are willing to finance 20% of the property and get the other 80% from the bank. Letting the renters pay of the mortgages while financing 15 year notes. It's solid. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Hog Farmer:
So , I have determined the BEST course for long term investment is still real estate. I've bought 90% of my rental properties from sellers that are willing to finance 20% of the property and get the other 80% from the bank. Letting the renters pay of the mortgages while financing 15 year notes. It's solid.
I really think you're right. The challenge is that you have to take a very long-term view, but it seems like it's almost a guaranteed great payoff at the end. I really regret not leveraging myself more to buy rental properties 10 years ago. At my current age, the payoff won't come until I'm in my 70s, and I'm not sure that that's worth the short-term pain now. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Rain Man:
I really think you're right. The challenge is that you have to take a very long-term view, but it seems like it's almost a guaranteed great payoff at the end. I really regret not leveraging myself more to buy rental properties 10 years ago. At my current age, the payoff won't come until I'm in my 70s, and I'm not sure that that's worth the short-term pain now.
Definitely something you want to get started in early. I've known several real estate investors that complained that they got in too late. You need a solid 20 year plan. I'm 52 and should be retireable from the Hog business by 55 and rely on the rentals. That's why I just play the stock market with expendable money and take it win or lose.
Then I have the stone yard. You buy in stone , double the price and sell it. It doesn't rot and it doesn't eat any feed so it's a nice little source also. [Reply]