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Nzoner's Game Room>*** Official 2017 Royals Repository ***
Chiefspants 10:55 AM 04-05-2017
Chiefsplanet’s (Proposed) 2017 Season Title: One Last Ride

Midish-Season Update (Royals 51-47, 2nd Wild Card, 1.5 GB of ALC):

We're halfway through 2017, and fittingly to the Chiefsplanet's 2017 Season Title, the Royals are all-in on what will likely be one final run with the current core. While many are worried the Royals will take a 2004 style tumble after this year, the farm system is hardly the barren wasteland it was during the Baird years. To see what's in the pipeline and what we have to look forward to, check out this exceptional list and analysis that Duncan put together of our system.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...htmlview#gid=0

While I had the honor of starting this thread this year, Duncan will always have a VIP pass to this OP, and can add more content at any time.

2017's Burning Questions Revisited:

1. What is the threshold between being “buyers” and “sellers” at the deadline?

We're buyers, baby.

In April, I argued that it would be a wise strategy for us to sell if we were 5 GB or worse, but that Dayton would likely add supplemental pieces for us to load up for another run if we were 1-2 GB. On July 24th, the Royals found themselves in sole possession of the 2nd wild card spot and 1.5 games back of the division. In April I said the Royals might pull the trigger on someone like Alex Cobb and resign Luke Hochevar, but since the Rays are also buyers and Luke's shoulder hasn't rebounded, this prediction hasn't come to fruition. Luckily, Dayton Moore again proved much more adept and creative than me by adding Trevor Cahill (good call, Duncan), Brandon Maurer and Ryan Buchter in a single trade. Giving us a solid starter to compete in 2017, and two relievers whom we will control through 2019 and 2021, respectively, keeping Moore's new vision through 2019-2020 intact. Moore has hinted that the Royals will continue to pursue the right deals if they're there, so the fun may not be over just yet. While we may not have the bullets to pull in a "star" like Cueto or Zo, Moore's adeptness may yet again net us what we need for another run in October.

2. Can Gordo and Moose bounce back to 2015 levels?

In April I asked if Gordo could at least set the table at a 265/325/425 clip and if Moose could deliver damage around a 265/335/500 clip for an entire year. This season Mr. Moustakas has been the prospect that was promised, delivering at a 277/307/568 clip as of this update. Gordo, on the other hand, has put up an unbelievably abysmal line thus far. But, if there is a silver lining, it's that Gordo has performed at a 246/311/432 line since June 1st, and if he can continue to perform near that mark, he will be more than a valuable asset at the bottom of the lineup while he continues to provide the best LF defense in the league.

3. Can Ned Yost manage a bullpen?

In April, I felt that despite the poor start, Royals bullpen would ultimately be "solid" this year, but the question was whether "solid" was good enough for Ned. I argued that the Royals needed Soria to bounce back and that Ned would need to start being strategic in his L/L and R/R matchups. While Ned has still made at times baffling and frustrating decisions with his starters (such as allowing Travis Wood to try to "get the win" and still insisting on sending Hammel out for the 6th, he's mostly done a good job).

MASH: Minor/Moylan - Alexander - Soria - Herrera (Credit to C3HIEF3S for the origins of the phrase) have cemented into reliable pieces, and now that Herrera is showing signs of stabilizing, our dumping of Wood, our call up Flynn, and the acquisition of Buchter and Maurer, the Royals have the potential to enter October with one of the best and deepest bullpens in the postseason.

4. Will the Royals find a boost from an unexpected X-Factor to lift them to contention?

Cool-Whit, Boni, Mike ****ing Minor, and Alexander have come up huge thus far. Cool Whit is, incredibly, is second on the team in WAR and has more than replaced Zo's presence on the team. They, like the X-Factors on the 2014-2015 teams, have been critical cogs as we've raced back to contention, while Cool-Whit and Boni also have provided a rosier outlook for this team's future. It's worth noting that Salvador Perez and Jason Vargas has been beasts on offense and the mound (along with Sal providing his customary defensive excellence), but I am still a bit wary of Salvy's annual Yost assisted offensive drought as the team moves into August, along with Vargy regressing to his averages.

5. Can Jorge Soler and Brandon Moss be productive contributors in Kauffman’s dimensions?

Ouch, no, but the Royals shift to power-hitting in the juiced ball era looks like one that will pay off. Thankfully, Moss is showing signs of entering his seasonal hot streak where he becomes corn-fed Jesus for a month, and we'll need him hot to keep up with Cleveland down the stretch. While Jorge has been painful to watch in the majors, his scorching performance in AAA should give one a bright hope for the future. While some may disagree, I offer Moose, Hos, Gordo, and Duffy's struggles as exhibit A for why it is far too early to give up on Soler's potential.

Bonus Question - Is Raul Mondesi truly ready to be an everyday player?

Ha! Not even close. However, like Soler, his progress in AAA is incredibly encouraging. With ceilings like Lindor and floors being Esky being thrown out there, it's hard not to be excited about his future.

The Picture Forward

There are many reasons to be excited, and not only for 2017. The Royals emergence of Cool Whit, Bonifacio, and Scott Alexander, and the fact that we have pieces like Salvador Perez, Danny Duffy, Kelvin Herrera, Jorge Soler, Ryan Buchter, Brandon Maurer Cheslor Cuthbert, and Raul Mondesi until at least 2019 should leave one feeling pretty optimistic. Re-up Moose or Hos (and heck, re-sign Dyson while we're at it), and suddenly this team looks very much like one that could compete for the indefinite future.

The Royals are all in again, buckle in and enjoy the ride.

April OP:

Spoiler!

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tk13 08:57 PM 06-12-2017
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
No.

And if the Royals mistakenly don't trade him, he'll end up SoCal.
That just depends on what we get. I'm kind of worried that he's playing so well, we won't get a fair return on him for what his value is. All the buzz that comes with playing GM and people speculating about trades... if we trade Moose and don't get a great offer in return people are going to go crazy. You just never know about these things. You have to find a partner that needs a 3B, and has a lot of good prospects to trade. I know they're out there, but it needs to match up, or you're better off just taking the 1st round pick.
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Sure-Oz 09:02 PM 06-12-2017
@MLBDraftTracker: 2 (52): @Royals select Westminster Christian School C MJ Melendez. http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/210960834/v1214597183 #MLBDraft
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Sure-Oz 09:06 PM 06-12-2017
@ClintScoles: Pratto is a return to the Moose, Hos style. A pedigree with a great strikezone judgement and future power

@ClintScoles: Plenty of people complain about Royals plate discipline. That won't be a problem with Pratto.
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Sure-Oz 09:08 PM 06-12-2017
Originally Posted by Sure-Oz:
@MLBDraftTracker: 2 (52): @Royals select Westminster Christian School C MJ Melendez. http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/210960834/v1214597183 #MLBDraft
@hudsonbelinsky: I'm a big fan of the M.J. Melendez pick for the #Royals. He can catch and throw, has raw power. Bat will need development.
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Great Expectations 09:09 PM 06-12-2017
Are we trying to setup a second wave to follow the more ready prospects we should get when we start unloading guys?
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Jerok 09:09 PM 06-12-2017
Confirmed trading Salvy #Rebuid #firesale #burnitdown

Jk but really we couldn't have drafted a pitcher or something? Eh what to I know.
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Prison Bitch 09:10 PM 06-12-2017
Dincan whatever happened to chase vallot? Wasn't he a big power/big walk catcher?
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ChiefsCountry 09:13 PM 06-12-2017
Originally Posted by Jerok:
Confirmed trading Salvy #Rebuid #firesale #burnitdown

Jk but really we couldn't have drafted a pitcher or something? Eh what to I know.
Just draft BPA.
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duncan_idaho 09:34 PM 06-12-2017
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
Dincan whatever happened to chase vallot? Wasn't he a big power/big walk catcher?

He's not making enough contact. Defense isn't tremendous either. Think he might benefit from a position switch that lets him focus on the bat.

Melendez is a really nice value pick there.


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mr. tegu 09:51 PM 06-12-2017
Originally Posted by siberian khatru:
The Nationals' bullpen just melted down again
Herrera would fit right in.
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WhawhaWhat 10:34 PM 06-12-2017
Huntington Beach, California defeated Hamamatsu City, Japan in the championship game of the 2011 Little League World Series by a score of 2-1. California won its' second LLWS Championship in three years after a bases loaded single by Nick Pratto scored pinch-runner Eric Anderson.


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penbrook 11:00 PM 06-12-2017
Just like John Dorsey. You pick BPA
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duncan_idaho 06:17 AM 06-13-2017
Originally Posted by penbrook:
Just like John Dorsey. You pick BPA

One of the things that makes baseball drafts interesting and unique is the ability to manipulate the slot money and spread your pool around.

KC may be able to save a bit on Pratto and it's third round pick Evan Steele, freeing up cash for guys that tumble a bit (typically Hs guys with good college options).

Steele is intriguing. Big lefty who was at Vanderbilt originally, projectable, already has good stuff. Reminds me a bit of Cody Reed, actually.

I think there's a decent chance they missed by not nabbing Kendall at 14. Guy was potential 1:1 coming into the college season, some think he was pressing trying to hit Hr and spiked his K rate.


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KChiefs1 06:54 AM 06-13-2017
http://www.royalsreview.com/2017/6/1...n-second-round

2017 MLB Draft: Royals select catcher, lefty pitcher in second round


The Royals concluded the first night of the draft by selecting catcher M.J. Melendez in the second round, the 52nd overall pick. Melendez attends Westminster Christian School in the suburbs of Miami, moving there from Montgomery, Alabama after his father Mervyl was named head coach of the Florida International University baseball program. Melendez is a left-handed hitting catcher with power, one of the top catchers available in this draft.

Melendez stands at 6’1’’ but sets up with a low target, according to Baseball America. He has quick feet and a strong arm, sometimes throwing to second from his knees. Melendez has good power for a prep hitter, but may need to develop his hit tool as his swing is a bit open and he does not hit for contact consistently. Baseball America ranked him the 52nd best prospect, writing:

He has a bit of a high hand set with some length to his swing. Melendez uses a leg kick to get his lower half started and has quick hands; when he connects with a pitch he's able to drive the ball with authority, and he projects to hit for some power at the pro level. He ditches his leg kick in two-strike counts and focuses more on making contact.

As a coach’s son, Melendez should be a pretty smart player, and his bilingual tongue should help. Melendez is committed to play for his father at FIU.

With their competitive balance pick after the second round, the Royals selected left-handed pitcher Evan Steele with the #73 overall pick. Steele transferred to Chipola Junior College in Florida from Vanderbilt, where he pitched just 11 2/3 innings for the Commodores in 2016, striking out 14 with an ERA of 4.63. This year, the 6’5’’ lefty suffered a setback with a blood clot that kept him out of action, but he returned with little problem, striking out 58 in 40 1⁄3 innings with a 2.01 ERA for the NJCAA national champion Chipola Indians.

Steele has a fastball in the low-90s, throwing from a low three-quarters arm delivery, according to Baseball America, who ranked him the #90 prospect overall. He has a sweeping breaking ball and an average changeup. Steele hails from Marietta, Georgia and his father Greg played college football at North Carolina State.


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sedated 08:22 AM 06-13-2017
Originally Posted by Great Expectations:
Are we trying to setup a second wave to follow the more ready prospects we should get when we start unloading guys?
I can't imagine they are going to trade their current roster for guys that are close to the majors. Stock the lower levels and wait for them to develop together (again).
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