Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
I don't see a magical small ass chance either way at this point.
Perhaps had we been able to get one of them in the offseason, but honestly Matheny would've just made him miserable and run him off either way.
No, unless you have a time machine that can take us back to 2014 and we can do what we should've done (and what the Cubs had the stones to do) and fire Matheny to bring on Maddon, there's no way we could've pulled it off.
I'd convinced myself that some fresh faces and winning games could get that miserable despot to be less of a buzzkill. As it turns out, there's nobody he can't beat the fun out of. Matheny murdered any of those dreams in the womb.
Yeah, theres no way either come now.
As I said earlier in the thread, I wish they'd try and bring in Francona but theres no chance he's leaving. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Mecca:
I honestly have no idea what Harper is going to do, I think there's a decent change he stays in Washington.
I don't think the odds are as long as most say.
Ted Lerner is a 92 year old billionaire. What the hell does he care if he gives Harper $50 million more than he should? He's not gonna live to spend it.
Ultimately Harper may leave some money on the table to go to his childhood favorite Yankees or play with his Vegas buddy Bryant (I'm pretty sure it was Bryant), but I don't think the Nationals will simply get outbid.
And Harpers ties to Washington are awfully strong. In fact, before the emergence of Soto, I'd have given the odds as being more likely than not that he stays. Now I guess it's possible that Lerner could decide that an OF of Eaton, Robles and Soto is fine and that money should be reallocated to pitching or something. [Reply]
Originally Posted by O.city:
Yeah, theres no way either come now.
As I said earlier in the thread, I wish they'd try and bring in Francona but theres no chance he's leaving.
I'm gobsmacked by the job that Kevin Cash has done. What an absolute homerun hire he's been for TB.
He just goes out there outgunned day in, day out, in the most brutal division in baseball and wins a fair number of ballgames. His 'ace' is a pussy and anytime they develop a hitter or closer, they get dealt. They lost arguably the best pitching coach in baseball and replace him with Kyle Snyder (yes - THAT Kyle Snyder; the Royals flameout - fuck I feel old) and suddenly Blake Snell becomes a friggen horse.
The guy just keeps turning chicken shit into chicken salad. He's done a remarkable job. But sadly, the Rays picked up his option so his in TB through next season. [Reply]
Gonna be a fun off-season but I don't think either come to the Cubs.
One year too soon. The year to move Heyward to make room would be next year. Would have been disgusting if the Cubs got Machado and then unloaded Russell for pitching. [Reply]
Originally Posted by jd1020:
Why because his father started throwing pitches before the rules state he is suppose to and Bryce told him to speed it up?
I dont even care. I dont even watch the HR derby and only tuned in for the final round to see if Schwarber won. Harper would have probably beat him without the bullshit anyways.
I've thought for a long time that its absolutely stupid to reset the HRs for each round. It's a HR derby... You get 4 mins + 30 seconds to hit as many HRs in each round as you can. Didn't Bryce hit 2nd every round? So as soon as he hit 1 more than the other guy he got to stop. Schwarber hit 8 more HRs than him and had the most swings on the night and was visibly exhausted by the time he was winding down his final round.
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
No, unless you have a time machine that can take us back to 2014 and we can do what we should've done (and what the Cubs had the stones to do) and fire Matheny to bring on Maddon, there's no way we could've pulled it off.
I wanted to hire Madden instead of Matheny. The fans down here loved him. He was said to the best in the game but because he was in Tampa, no one knew. You can check the Cardinals thread. On this one, I was right. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
No, unless you have a time machine that can take us back to 2014 and we can do what we should've done (and what the Cubs had the stones to do) and fire Matheny to bring on Maddon, there's no way we could've pulled it off.
The two situations that you're referencing were not the same whatsoever.
Matheny had just finished his third season as manager in which he oversaw the club making the postseason for the third time in three season.
Renteria was a first year manager, who while a very good choice for manager and was probably a good fit for the Cubs at the time, was just that. A first year manager.
Firing a first time manager in his third season after making the POs three seasons in a row in his first three seasons managing a team would have been asinine.
Whether or not hiring Matheny was a good long term move by the Cardinals can be debated, but not firing a guy who just made the POs his first three seasons as manager is not something worth arguing about. The Cubs deserve credit for having the "stones" to fire, by all accounts, a good baseball coach for an even better one after year 1. If the Cardinals had fired Matheny for Maddon, while Maddon is a better manager, would have created an incredibly toxic environment for the club, IMO.
If anything, complain how the front office chose Matheny over Francona. [Reply]
Can report with more certainty: Machado to #Dodgers happening. Among remaining questions, in addition to specifics of return beyond OF Yusniel Diaz: How much money, if any, #Orioles will send #Dodgers to secure a better package and help ease LAD’s luxury-tax concerns.
Machado deal to dodgers is agreed upon, tho could be still some medical/approval to go. Press conference slated for Wednesday or Thursday. Many prospects going to orioles (believed to be 5). No $ in deal (LA will remain under threshold anyway)
Machado deal to dodgers is agreed upon, tho could be still some medical/approval to go. Press conference slated for Wednesday or Thursday. Many prospects going to orioles (believed to be 5). No $ in deal (LA will remain under threshold anyway)
