Reading back through this thread I noticed a few comments related to trucks and associated performance such as towing and hauling. I’m wondering if the Ford Lighting is changing any one’s mind on electric cars. It seems to have really good towing and hauling performance and isn’t too far off in price from similar gas versions. I’m fairly certain at this point I’m going to get one next year.
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It needs the range when hauling.


That'll be it's hangup until they figure it out.


I would love an electric pickup with infinite torque and near zero maintenance.
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How much range do you need when hauling? And think it would be different if you lived in a bigger city? The range isn’t really an issue at all for me but just curious from a work truck perspective.

The frunk is awesome and it seems the interior has most features a regular high end F-150 has. I was always interested in the Tesla just because I’m thinking truck for my next car but there’s no way I’d go with that weird thing over the Lightning.
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They were talking about the new Electric Hummer yesterday on CNBC. 1000HP 0-60 in 3 seconds 350 mile range.

Hmmmm!

And it does the crab walk.

https://www.gmc.com/electric/hummer-ev


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and has a price of over $100k…no thanks
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For those of you that have one, how much does running your AC, radio, headlights, etc. cut into that 300 mile range? I rarely drive over 150 miles in a day, but it would seem to me that any system that uses battery power would limit your driving range.
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The ones you listed take very little power. It takes a hell of a lot of power to drive the car itself, so all of the things you listed are almost negligible.

However, the HEATER can be pretty significant. Electric cars generate very little heat on their own (due to the high efficiency), so they counterintuitively need quite a bit of juice to heat the cabin up (think space heater in your house). You can assume you'll lose at least a chunk of your range on the coldest days. It's a pretty big impact on our Leaf (with a 40 KWh battery, we lose probably 30% of range on the coldest winter days), but I would imagine it would be more modest (maybe 10%) on the F150 and its ~125 KWh battery.
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I have had a 2016 Tesla Model S for 3 years now, and have no concerns running AC, radio, headlights, etc. even in 90 degree + temps. I don't see more than a 1% drop in the battery. Now, in really cold weather (like today) when running the heater at 72, I'm seeing around a 5% drop....... note that keeping the battery temp optimal in extreme hot/cold is really the big pull on the battery.

My range on my car is 274 miles on a full charge, (but never charge it to 100% unless taking a trip, always charge at 80%) My longest trip was to Moab UT. and back (Olathe, KS) in the Summer of 2019. Other than stopping to charge, ( the car maps out for you to the SuperChargers) I had no issues. Average speed was 75, average temp was 90+ except in the high mountains. I was so impressed and so was my wife, I ended up buying another used 2018 Tesla Model X for her (after her repeated requests). So now we own 2....... Both were purchased used....... (no way I could afford a new S or X)

range anxiety is a real thing, until you have your electric car for a few weeks/months or take a trip........ just plan ahead and you are golden. Have only replaced the tires on my S, and windshield wipers and fluid...........been great so far.
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How much did you pay for your car and your wife's car?

How many stops did you have to make on your trip?

How long did it take to charge at those stops?
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no
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Damn. If they can actually meet these specs, I might have to consider a truck...

Here's the new 2024 Electric Chevrolet Silverado.
- 400 mile range
- 10,000 pounds of towing
- Zero to 60 in ~4.5 seconds
- Pass through truck bed *into* the cab
- Four wheel steering
- Fully loaded version coming 2023 (MSRP $105,000)
- Basic package ~ $39,000
What do you think? pic.twitter.com/FXX82wXgQv

— JerryRigEverything (@ZacksJerryRig) January 5, 2022

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Sounds good to me. That's some good range considering the tow specs. I wonder how lame the $39,000 package is considering fully loaded is $105,000. It's probably just like a work truck or something?


I'm not a fan of the little extend thingy behind the cab though. Just make it look like a regular truck for God's sake.
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Someone thought it was a good idea to make it resemble the Avalanche... which was a POS. Someone thought it was a good idea to bring back 4 wheel steer on a new reveal, which was a train wreck the last time they tried it.

If 100k = 400 miles does the 40k model go 100 miles? Is the 40k model even available to a retail customer?

As fast as vehicle costs are inflating it'll probably hit the market with a $90-150k gap on a 15 year note riding on a 10 year predicted battery lifespan.
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Avalanche 2.0 was a mistake imo.

I wonder what the range is while towing. That what will be the big one for me.
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That's the big question for me. I don't care about the sheek look.

And I think most folks arguing every point against the truck are likely doing it out of instinct against electric vehicles.

Still, show me the range while towing and some consistency, and Im way in on this.
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