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Originally Posted by Buehler445:
Money. They're really having to ramp up the CGI. Plus the location stuff isn't getting cheaper. Plus all the new cast members. I guess they could kill fools off to lighten the payroll.
But my understanding is they're going to make 7 show series with 10 show budget.
Actually, it's because Benioff and Weiss want it to end [Reply]
Originally Posted by Bowser:
I sure hate to kick you right in your righteous boner, but....
It's remarkably, REMARKABLY, shitty storytelling if they do.
This great evil that you've spent the entire story building up suddenly neutralizes the only natural advantage the protagonists had. Not for any sane reason, mind you, but just because. What the hell narrative purpose to friggen ice dragons serve?
I'm unconvinced. There's just no sense at all in introducing ice dragons. Like I said, at that point it's either extinction or a Wile E. Coyote kind of dues ex machina that would undermine everything the series has built. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Well I'll be damned; so we did.
At least I didn't contradict myself. I'll do that from time to time.
Yeah, you didn't at all. I think most here actually agreed that adding ice dragons to the equation would result in a curbstomp in favor of the Walkers.
I only brought them up because I was speculating on how the Walkers will get through/over/under the wall. According to the books, there are pretty powerful wards so they can't go under or through it. Over might be a possibility (if they had dragons or ice spiders) but they wouldn't be likely to have an ice spider or dragon for every member of their vast army anyway...
So I'd say it's almost a virtual certainty that the wall will be brought down somehow. Most likely by the horn since it's really the only thing that's been mentioned. Mance probably couldn't find it because the Whites have it. [Reply]
Who is to say the ice dragons don't save the day for the white walkers just as they are about to lose to the people, and the white walkers come out winners in the end? [Reply]
Originally Posted by mr. tegu:
Who is to say the ice dragons don't save the day for the white walkers just as they are about to lose to the people, and the white walkers come out winners in the end?
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
Yeah, you didn't at all. I think most here actually agreed that adding ice dragons to the equation would result in a curbstomp in favor of the Walkers.
I only brought them up because I was speculating on how the Walkers will get through/over/under the wall. According to the books, there are pretty powerful wards so they can't go under or through it. Over might be a possibility (if they had dragons or ice spiders) but they wouldn't be likely to have an ice spider or dragon for every member of their vast army anyway...
So I'd say it's almost a virtual certainty that the wall will be brought down somehow. Most likely by the horn since it's really the only thing that's been mentioned. Mance probably couldn't find it because the Whites have it.
Could they not go around? I've always kinda figured they just figure out a way to sail into Eastwatch. The wights are stupid; the Walkers aren't (and even the wights aren't mindless zombies as we learned from Hardhomme).
Hell, couldn't they theoretically wait until the long winter and when the bay of ice freezes, just walk across? Let's face it, time is on the Walkers side here. [Reply]
Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO: :-) that would be about fucking right.
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Could they not go around? I've always kinda figured they just figure out a way to sail into Eastwatch. The wights are stupid; the Walkers aren't (and even the wights aren't mindless zombies as we learned from Hardhomme).
Hell, couldn't they theoretically wait until the long winter and when the bay of ice freezes, just walk across? Let's face it, time is on the Walkers side here.
Not sure how I feel about the ice dragon either. On the one hand it seems like it would really shift the powers to the white walkers. But on the other hand, Dani's 3 dragons really limits the white walkers too. They could conceivably wipe out the whites with little effort, so an ice dragon (or three........) could actually be more of a leveling of power between the living and the dead. [Reply]
