Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.
We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.
Thanks!
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Spoiler!
Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.
California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.
“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”
The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.
The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”
Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.
The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.
The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.
A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.
Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.
“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”
It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.
“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”
On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.
“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”
According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.
More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.
But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.
“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”
CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.
Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.
“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”
Originally Posted by stumppy:
Start shit? You mean like your post here? You're the one who brought my name up.
Most of people the posting in this thread appreciate the fact it's supposed to be non political and point out when dipshits can't help themselves and still do it.
No big deal, I was the first person to call you on it. If I hadn't someone else prob would have.
So, why don't you not derail the thread and leave it at that.
The developer of the IHME model just said on CNN they will be releasing an updated model showing what will happen if you stop social distancing in early May. He said the early numbers are showing we will be back to where we were a week of two ago and we will be quickly back to lockdowns. So we need to keep doing what we are doing through May. [Reply]
Originally Posted by dirk digler:
The developer of the IHME model just said on CNN they will be releasing an updated model showing what will happen if you stop social distancing in early May. He said the early numbers are showing we will be back to where we were a week of two ago and we will be quickly back to lockdowns. So we need to keep doing what we are doing through May.
Don’t tell that to 88. More important to get back to work than have people get a mild flu. [Reply]
Originally Posted by dirk digler:
The developer of the IHME model just said on CNN they will be releasing an updated model showing what will happen if you stop social distancing in early May. He said the early numbers are showing we will be back to where we were a week of two ago and we will be quickly back to lockdowns. So we need to keep doing what we are doing through May.
Okay....I don't think we need a model for that. But does their model take into account ancillary impacts of staying shut down for another 1.5 months?
You think people are shitting their pants about the economy now you just wait..... [Reply]
Originally Posted by dirk digler:
The developer of the IHME model just said on CNN they will be releasing an updated model showing what will happen if you stop social distancing in early May. He said the early numbers are showing we will be back to where we were a week of two ago and we will be quickly back to lockdowns. So we need to keep doing what we are doing through May.
I guess the question becomes how much faith do you put in that model? :-) [Reply]
Originally Posted by TLO:
I guess the question becomes how much faith do you put in that model? :-)
I guess you have to have something of a compass no matter how wrong or ever-changing it may be. But I am curious if this is the same model that just 1 week ago said our best case scenario was 100k dead at minimum? [Reply]
Originally Posted by dirk digler:
The developer of the IHME model just said on CNN they will be releasing an updated model showing what will happen if you stop social distancing in early May. He said the early numbers are showing we will be back to where we were a week of two ago and we will be quickly back to lockdowns. So we need to keep doing what we are doing through May.
In other words the guys who botched the last model want you to believe their new model...
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
Easily? Easily? For whom?
And where are they going to play their games?
Teams used to hold their training camps outside of their home states on a regular basis... the Chiefs in River Falls, Wisconsin, the Saints in West Virginia, etc. Moving a team’s training camp out of their home state if needed is doable.
And the regular season start date is 170+ days from when the lockdown measures began in March.
If China ended their lockdown measures in about 70 days in Wuhan, Beijing and Shanghai, why is it impossible to see a realistic scenario where the NFL regular season can start on time with some adjustments such as reduced stadium capacities, fans required to wear face masks, etc.? [Reply]
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88:
Teams used to hold their training camps outside of their home states on a regular basis... the Chiefs in River Falls, Wisconsin, the Saints in West Virginia, etc. Moving a team’s training camp out of their home state if needed is doable.
And the regular season start date is 170+ days from when the lockdown measures began in March.
If China ended their lockdown measures in about 70 days in Wuhan, Beijing and Shanghai, why is it impossible to see a realistic scenario where the NFL regular can start on time with some adjustments such as reduced stadium capacities, fans required to wear face masks, etc.?
Because they ended them after it had killed millions, and still is to keep their economy going.
Beautiful thing controlling the media, you can make up shot and they parrot it. [Reply]