I don't know...but TFA and TLJ have given us two incredible, incredible scenes with lightsaber fights, duel or otherwise.

They've successfully captured the dynamic that the OT had and the PT lacked.

Lightsaber duels aren't about cramming as much trickshot swordplay and CGI flips as you can into a fight...it's about the emotion in the characters during the fight.
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Didn't register. All I know is a male saved everyone's ass at the end of the film, so I have no idea what you're talking about.

90s fan film. Huge callback that only die-hards would get and proved just how big of a fan Rian is.

I'm almost 36...:-)

As a dude who grew up watching the OT on VHS and hated the prequels...this film was nearly perfect to me. Dunno want to tell you. :-)
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I have to disagree here.

After the second viewing, some of the plotlines became clearer and I don't feel like the story "shit on the characters from the OT".

1. Luke admitted to the same hubris as the original Jedi Order. That's the type of honesty that made Luke Skywalker, Luke Skywalker. And in the end, he once again saved the Rebellion, his sister and this time, his apprentice, Rey, who will carry on the Jedi Order.

2. Leia was the strong leader that she'd always been. She was feisty and strong willed, even to the point of using a laster blaster against one of her allies. I don't see how that conflicts at all with the OT.

3. Chewie was Chewie. A loyal friend that at times, provided a comedic element.

4. R2D2, again, was R2. BB8 was pretty awesome, too.

There's been fair criticism of the subplot on Canto Bight but I think it's been misguided. Sure, what was in front of us was pretty silly and fun and the mission itself was a failure. But what hasn't been discussed is that Rose apparently gave a little boy a ring with the Rebel Alliance symbol and also uses The Force. I think those scenes and sequences are more about the future of the Rebellion and the Jedi Order. It also allowed Finn to kill Phasma.

The "fuel" aspect is still a bit weird as a plot device but whatever. The film seemed somewhat plodding to me on the first viewing but the second viewing went by laser-quick, most likely because I knew exactly what was coming next and the pacing seemed fine.

The Throne Room scene with Snoke, Rey and Ren was amazing. I'm not quite ready to say that it equals Qui-Gon and Obi Wan versus Darth Maul but it's damn close. I'm sure once I've watched on Blu Ray a dozen times, my opinion might shift to where I rank it #1. But that's a silly quibble.

All in all, while it wasn't the story that I was expecting, nor where some of the character arcs what I expected, the film stands on its own very well. I'm not ready to rank it in Star Wars movies but for my money, it's better than the Prequels, better than the Force Awakens, better than Return of the Jedi but at this point in time, behind TESB, Rogue One and A New Hope.

That could change upon subsequent viewings.
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Oh, man.

I freakin' loved seeing Leia using a stun blaster again. And I kinda lost my shit when she was just hanging out with a big gun in her hands at the end of the movie. :-)

Leia was great in this, Luke was awesome, Chewie was great...

I love Rian. So much. I cannot WAIT to see this again tomorrow. It's going to be like hooking up with a hot girl you had great sex with once and she comin' back for more, baby!
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Yeah I'm actually kind of shocked at the people who hated this movie but then I remembered this is CP and nothing makes some of you happy. This movie was absolutely amazing, and if you can't see that then you don't know a good movie if it hit you in the face
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:-):-):-)

Exactly how I view it, although I'll take it over Rogue One at this point.

Rogue One is mostly a nostalgia cash-in. An effective one, but original material will always stand above that for me.

I have it about equal with Jedi.
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This. Well said.
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I liked the casino scene better than Jabba’s Palace and the Porgs better than the Ewoks.

BB8 in a AT-ST is more believable to me than Ewoks and Chewie and the overall sense of desperation in TLJ was better than ROTJ, so I give the nod to TLJ.

Rogue One may be a nostalgia trip but what an awesome trip to take.
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My ranking after one viewing. 54678312. Rogue One would be between 4 and 6.
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Rey tossing the lightsaber to Kylo and then him turning it on to kill the guard was abso-fucking-lutely amazing.
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Cool fan theory I read: The Master Codebreaker was Lando. Same mustache. The flower on his lapel was a cloaking device. :-)

It's a pity Billy Dee is too old, because seeing that would have been awesome.
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True but I want to see competent sword play to go along with the emotion and that’s been lackin imo.
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You're nuts. Both of the lightsaber scenes have been extremely well choreographed.
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I don’t think he’s too old but his presence would have been a bit too much in this film. With no Luke, Leia or Han in Episode IX, he’d be a better fit in that story, IMO.

I don’t think anyone’s mentioned just how cool Maz Kanata was in this film. When she blasted off at the end of her scene, I had a huge smile on my face.

I love Maz and hope she’s in Solo, as rumored.
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Ian would murk all these fools
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