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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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Mecca 09:45 AM 04-10-2020
Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15:
:-)
Man I've been sick for 3 weeks and I feel like death......that's mild suck it up pussy open back up the economy now!
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BigRedChief 09:45 AM 04-10-2020
Originally Posted by stevieray:
No offense but this is just silly.

Social media is making people a little too self absorbed with their opinions.

This country has dealt with fa,r far worse.
I agree that there shouldn’t be this overwhelming fear. It was stupid after 9/11 and it’d be stupid now. And i whole heartily agree that this country has whethered far worse crisis’s. Many times.

But, it’s still going to happen. It’s going to take society some time to return to normal because of the fear. This isn’t just my lone uninformed opinion.
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OnTheWarpath15 09:46 AM 04-10-2020
Originally Posted by Chiefnj2:
In our new world being sick for 20 days is “mild” because you weren’t admitted to a hospital. Pretty f’d up
It's both sad and scary that there are SO MANY people out there who think this is all being blown out of proportion.
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OnTheWarpath15 09:48 AM 04-10-2020
Originally Posted by Mecca:
Man I've been sick for 3 weeks and I feel like death......that's mild suck it up pussy open back up the economy now!
The selfishness and ignorance of people has definitely been on full display the last month or so.
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Mecca 09:49 AM 04-10-2020
Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15:
It's both sad and scary that there are SO MANY people out there who think this is all being blown out of proportion.
Are you really surprised? We have a society that has been taught to be selfish to the point that some inconvenience is a enough to piss them off, let alone the generations that don't trust anything anyone says on top of it.
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BigRedChief 09:53 AM 04-10-2020
Originally Posted by Bearcat:
If it goes away over the summer, there's zero reason for people to get back to normal life, attend concerts and sporting events, etc.

If it for some reason doesn't go away and just flattens, I could see many people being slow to buy concert tickets or whatever, but I think many, many more people will get back to their regular way of life.

Years is absolutely insane to say... there's zero reason to think that. FFS, there was a baseball game played in NYC days after 9/11 and other events, etc, people started flying again very soon after that, etc.

At most, more people will wear masks all the time.
where did I say it’s going to take years? I said it took that long after 9/11.

I used the the fear after 9/11 as an example of how society overreacts to fear. That’s the only correlation I’m making about 9/11 and covid-19. Peoples overreaction to what they fear. This is just a basic human trait. How is that in any way controversial? Or some kind of wakko opinion? People overreact to what they fear. That’s just fact.
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ghak99 09:53 AM 04-10-2020
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88:
If you want a more "reliable" example... check out the recent statistics from Miami-Dade County (compiled by Florida's Department of Health):

As of April 6th, there were 4,671 total confirmed COVID-19 cases in Miami-Dade County, 287 of those cases required hospitalization.

That means 94% (actually much higher than the 80% # from the China data) of COVID-19 cases in Miami-Dade County with a sample size of 4,600+ people had mild symptoms that did not require hospitalization.

Link: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/cor...241793806.html
There's also an unaccounted for segment of their surrounding population who were infected and never showed a strong enough symptom to cause a test to even be done.
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Donger 09:58 AM 04-10-2020
New York governor: We're "cautiously optimistic" that infection rate is slowing

At least 777 people across New York died from coronavirus yesterday, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said. That's down from 799 the day before.

In total, 7,844 people have died from coronavirus in the state, the governor said.

While the state continues to lose a "tremendous number of lives," Cuomo said he's "cautiously optimistic" that the infection rate is slowing.

Cuomo said the change in ICU admissions is "a negative number" today — the first time since the coronavirus pandemic started.

"That means there are fewer people in the intensive care units statewide than there were," he explained.
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OnTheWarpath15 09:58 AM 04-10-2020
Originally Posted by ghak99:
There's also an unaccounted for segment of their surrounding population who were infected and never showed a strong enough symptom to cause a test to even be done.
Along with the people that had/have symptoms, but weren't allowed to test because they hadn't been in contact with a KNOWN case (hard to do when there's no testing) and/or hadn't traveled internationally or to/from a domestic hotspot.

My wife and I know 15-20 people who had/have symptoms and aren't "qualifying" for testing.

Factor in another 30% of false negatives. Hell, my likely false negative alone is keeping a LOT of people from being tested.
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limested 10:00 AM 04-10-2020
Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15:
Along with the people that had/have symptoms, but weren't allowed to test because they hadn't been in contact with a KNOWN case (hard to do when there's no testing) and/or hadn't traveled internationally or to/from a domestic hotspot.

My wife and I know 15-20 people who had/have symptoms and aren't "qualifying" for testing.

Factor in another 30% of false negatives. Hell, my likely false negative alone is keeping a LOT of people from being tested.
It's just a flu. Everyone get back to work.
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Chiefnj2 10:01 AM 04-10-2020
Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15:
It's both sad and scary that there are SO MANY people out there who think this is all being blown out of proportion.
I know, and know of, people with it and the range has been a few days of feeling bad (females 20s), to a really bad breathing problems where people couldn’t say an entire sentence without running out of breath (male and female 30’s) to a sibling of a colleague who died (male 70).

People are generally used to dealing with an occasional virus with fever, aches, or a respiratory infection with bad coughing. People aren’t used to feeling like they can’t breathe. I’m sure it’s a very scary feeling,
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POND_OF_RED 10:03 AM 04-10-2020
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
Peoples overreaction to what they fear. This is just a basic human trait. How is that in any way controversial? Or some kind of wakko opinion? People overreact to what they fear. That’s just fact.
Are you finally admitting that you’ve been overreacting a bit? I agree, we’ve definitely overreacted a lot these past couple months. Hopefully we can face our fears and get back to normal soon, though!
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KChiefs1 10:05 AM 04-10-2020
Great commercial.


https://twitter.com/joshuagrubbsphd/...566006272?s=21
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OnTheWarpath15 10:06 AM 04-10-2020
Originally Posted by Chiefnj2:
I know, and know of, people with it and the range has been a few days of feeling bad (females 20s), to a really bad breathing problems where people couldn’t say an entire sentence without running out of breath (male and female 30’s) to a sibling of a colleague who died (male 70).

People are generally used to dealing with an occasional virus with fever, aches, or a respiratory infection with bad coughing. People aren’t used to feeling like they can’t breathe. I’m sure it’s a very scary feeling,
It's especially scary considering (at least in my case) you struggle to breath, AND have all of the other issues going on. Fever, body ache, cough to the point of vomiting, massive headache, massive fatigue, etc.

For the first 15 days it felt like someone much bigger than me was giving me a permanent bear hug from behind. Got winded walking from the bedroom to the bathroom 8-10 feet away. At it's worst, it felt like I was trying to breath through a straw with the other end covered in a wet paper towel.

And again, I'm considered a mild case because I wasn't hospitalized.

But sure, it's just the flu. So many more people are going to get this out of pure stubbornness and ignorance.
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Chiefnj2 10:13 AM 04-10-2020
Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15:
It's especially scary considering (at least in my case) you struggle to breath, AND have all of the other issues going on. Fever, body ache, cough to the point of vomiting, massive headache, massive fatigue, etc.

For the first 15 days it felt like someone much bigger than me was giving me a permanent bear hug from behind. Got winded walking from the bedroom to the bathroom 8-10 feet away. At it's worst, it felt like I was trying to breath through a straw with the other end covered in a wet paper towel.

And again, I'm considered a mild case because I wasn't hospitalized.

But sure, it's just the flu. So many more people are going to get this out of pure stubbornness and ignorance.
I’m glad you are on the road to recovery and are feeling better.

I can see why someone in a rural area of South Dakota doesn’t fully understand what is happening in NYC or to those who had it.
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