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Nzoner's Game Room>Official 2017-2018 NBA Playoffs thread!
Al Bundy 08:21 PM 04-13-2018

We'll see if the Warriors recover from the end of the season stretch of stinkers.
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KC_Connection 09:46 PM 05-27-2018
Originally Posted by dirk digler:
I know KCC won't like this but KD could be that player at least to challenge Lebron. He may win a few more championships and the way he scores he will probably end up breaking alot of the scoring records.
Stop it. Durant could win 10 championships and he wouldn't be half the player LeBron is. How is this not obvious to anybody who has watched this postseason (or really any basketball over the last decade)?
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BigCatDaddy 09:46 PM 05-27-2018
Originally Posted by RunKC:
The best ever doesn’t lose to Joe Flacco at home in the conference championship.

That wasn’t even the first time. Remember when Flacco blew Brady out at home in the divisional round?
Remember Dirk kicking Lebrons ass? How about the old ass Spurs?
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TomBarndtsTwin 09:46 PM 05-27-2018
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
I have a lot of reasons why I don't put Lebron at GOAT. but denying his greatness is absurd at this point. Its possible to like Jordan and Lebron at the same time
This.

No one is saying Lebron isn’t an all time great or Top 5 all time NBA player. And he’s easily the dominant player of this era. No arguments.

But for clowns like Nick Wright and KCC to spew 24/7 Lebron is the GOAT, hands down, no reasonable argument for anyone else is just fucking stupid.

And it’s gotten annoying to hear the same damn thing day after day after day after day after day after . . . . . .
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Rams Fan 09:50 PM 05-27-2018
Originally Posted by dirk digler:
I know KCC won't like this but KD could be that player at least to challenge Lebron. He may win a few more championships and the way he scores he will probably end up breaking alot of the scoring records.
KD shouldn't belong in the conversation for 3 reasons.

LeBron left Cleveland for Miami because no one would go to Cleveland.
KD left OKC for the team that beat him because it was easy.


LeBron's taken teams that have had no business being in the finals to the finals twice in his career.
KD hasn't done that, yet.

LeBron returned to Cleveland and won a ring.
KD likely won't return to OKC in the foreseeable future.

Giannis, Porzingis, Davis, Towns, IMO, could be players that could challenge LeBron in the future.
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'Hamas' Jenkins 09:51 PM 05-27-2018
Durant is also a far, far inferior passer and defender to LeBron. Durant is better than Drexler, but it's about as ridiculous of a comparison as the MJ-Clyde comparisons before the '92 Finals.
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dirk digler 09:52 PM 05-27-2018
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
Stop it. Durant could win 10 championships and he wouldn't be half the player LeBron is. How is this not obvious to anybody who has watched this postseason (or really any basketball over the last decade)?
If KD went 10-1 in championships (never going to happen) and broke all the scoring records yes he would probably be the GOAT. That goes for any player btw.
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KC_Connection 09:56 PM 05-27-2018
Originally Posted by dirk digler:
If KD went 10-1 in championships (never going to happen) and break all the scoring records yes he would probably be the GOAT. That goes for any player btw.
That would make him the greatest scorer ever. Player? Nah, he does everything else at a far worse level than LeBron.

The gulf between these two is absolutely massive and we shouldn't forget that next week when Golden State wins yet another title/Durant likely wins another Finals MVP.
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-King- 09:57 PM 05-27-2018
Originally Posted by Rams Fan:
KD shouldn't belong in the conversation for 3 reasons.

LeBron left Cleveland for Miami because no one would go to Cleveland.
KD left OKC for the team that beat him because it was easy.


LeBron's taken teams that have had no business being in the finals to the finals twice in his career.
KD hasn't done that, yet.

LeBron returned to Cleveland and won a ring.
KD likely won't return to OKC in the foreseeable future.

Giannis, Porzingis, Davis, Towns, IMO, could be players that could challenge LeBron in the future.
LeBron played in the east. It's much much much easier to make the finals there than in the west. If Durant was in the east you don't think he'd have made a bunch of finals by now?

LeBron is better than Durant, but it's not because of his finals appearances or anything like that. It's simply because he's a better player.
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ohiobronco2 09:58 PM 05-27-2018
Originally Posted by dirk digler:
I know KCC won't like this but KD could be that player at least to challenge Lebron. He may win a few more championships and the way he scores he will probably end up breaking alot of the scoring records.
I think Lebron will pass Kareem, but I thought Kobe would as well. At the conclusion of his 11th season, LeBron had 23,170, Durant has 20,913. It all depends on if Durant can stay healthy, LeBron's health and how long each of them play. I would not bet money Durant passing Lebron, primarily because even when LeBron was a part of the big 3, he still scored more than Durant in GS and Durant is not as durable.
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RunKC 09:59 PM 05-27-2018
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy:
Remember Dirk kicking Lebrons ass? How about the old ass Spurs?
Still better than losing to a backup QB in the SB :-)
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Rams Fan 10:00 PM 05-27-2018
Originally Posted by -King-:
LeBron played in the east. It's much much much easier to make the finals there than in the west. If Durant was in the east you don't think he'd have made a bunch of finals by now?

LeBron is better than Durant, but it's not because of his finals appearances or anything like that. It's simply because he's a better player.
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No, I don't think Durant would have made a bunch of finals by now if he played in the East unless he could somehow go back in time, somehow end up on the Bulls, and somehow prevents Rose from tearing his ACL.

And I think you are dismissing LeBron's first finals appearance in which he faced a very good team that made 6 consecutive ECF.

KD making his first appearance with OKC is fine and all, but he had Westbrook, Ibaka, and Harden. LeBron had Zydrunas Ilguaskas.
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staylor26 10:03 PM 05-27-2018
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Still better than losing to a backup QB in the SB :-)
Nah. Lebron was outplayed by Jason ****ing Terry.

Besides, this is whole Brady/Lebron thing is silly and apples to oranges.

There’s 21 other guys on the field in football, and you’re talking about 8 years to 2. Not to mention one guys is 40, while the other is 33.
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-King- 10:04 PM 05-27-2018
Originally Posted by Rams Fan:
No, I don't think Durant would have made a bunch of finals by now if he played in the East unless he could somehow go back in time, somehow end up on the Bulls, and somehow prevents Rose from tearing his ACL.
I don't know what you mean. Why do you think LeBron dominates the east but then loses most of the time in the finals? Because the east is weak as shit compared to the west. That same reason is why Durant hadnt made the finals. If he played in the east against the same shitty easy teams LeBron has played, he'd have a few more finals appearances.
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-King- 10:07 PM 05-27-2018
Originally Posted by Rams Fan:
No, I don't think Durant would have made a bunch of finals by now if he played in the East unless he could somehow go back in time, somehow end up on the Bulls, and somehow prevents Rose from tearing his ACL.

And I think you are dismissing LeBron's first finals appearance in which he faced a very good team that made 6 consecutive ECF.

KD making his first appearance with OKC is fine and all, but he had Westbrook, Ibaka, and Harden. LeBron had Zydrunas Ilguaskas.
Well that proves my point. Even with help it's hard to make it out of the west. With no help, a great player can make it out of the east but then get smacked by the western team.

I mean there's a reason the west has won 12 championships since 2000.
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Rams Fan 10:08 PM 05-27-2018
Originally Posted by -King-:
I don't know what you mean. Why do you think LeBron dominates the east but then loses most of the time in the finals? Because the east is weak as shit compared to the west. That same reason is why Durant hadnt made the finals. If he played in the east against the same shitty easy teams LeBron has played, he'd have a few more finals appearances.
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I never said the East was better than the West.

I am saying that what LeBron's done would not have been replicated by Durant if he had played in the East. LeBron in Miami would have beaten OKC with Durant, Westbrook, Ibaka, and Harden consistently.

Originally Posted by -King-:
Well that proves my point. Even with help it's hard to make it out of the west. With no help, a great player can make it out of the east but then get smacked by the western team.

I mean there's a reason the west has won 12 championships since 2000.
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Yes, because the Lakers had freaking Kobe and Shaq, the Spurs had Duncan and Pop's system, and then there's the Warriors.

The only real outlier is the Mavs.
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