Originally Posted by Superturtle:
So if Andy Reid is making the calls about who we draft then that leaves the GM to contract negotiating duty. Which Dorsey was absolutely ****ing awful at.
How so? Other than Hudson we lost nobody and were able to sign top guys like Schwartz and Maclin [Reply]
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
How so? Other than Hudson we lost nobody and were able to sign top guys like Schwartz and Maclin
You do realize that if Bowe doesn't get suspended 1 game for pot we can't void his guaranteed money and cut him in 2015. If that money was still on the books there's no way we can sign Jeremy Maclin. Dorsey was pretty damn lucky to get bailed out of that one. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
Now he has his yes man from philly and if you look at all the guys who came from philly aroubd his time they all suck.
Andy has always made the decisions I'd imagine, or atleast had his hand in them.
If you listen to Middlekauf's pod, apparently Dorsey has a pretty big ego. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
So if Andy Reid is making the calls about who we draft then that leaves the GM to contract negotiating duty. Which Dorsey was absolutely ****ing awful at.
In this hypothetical that's a logical line of thought. However Veach has also not exactly been thrifty himself with contracts. [Reply]
Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan:
In this hypothetical that's a logical line of thought. However Veach has also not exactly been thrifty himself with contracts.
No, he hasn't. Dorsey never learned from his errors. Let's see if Veach will. He's got potential extensions coming up with the likes of Ford, Hill, Jones, and Fuller and another free agency. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
He can thank Andy for finding the offensive players we drafted.
That's an assumption. Hell the greatest offensive player this team has been able to aquire isn't even attributed to Andy. I'm not saying your point doesn't have any logic to it but to list it as a fact and just strike that credit out of Dorseys ledger is too much. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
No, he hasn't. Dorsey never learned from his errors. Let's see if Veach will. He's got potential extensions coming up with the likes of Ford, Hill, Jones, and Fuller and another free agency.
I'm not a Veach hater. I do think some people, not necessarily you, take credit away from Dorsey too easily. Veach doesn't get that microscope and I think it's in part because he is our current gm. Dorsey didn't get this microscope outside of the contracts until he was fired. [Reply]
Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan:
I'm not a Veach hater. I do think some people, not necessarily you, take credit away from Dorsey too easily. Veach doesn't get that microscope and I think it's in part because he is our current gm. Dorsey didn't get this microscope outside of the contracts until he was fired.
It's still too early to really judge anything that Veach has done aside from his contracts. We can look back now and see how Dorsey did cumulatively over the course of his career here with drafting, free agency, and contract extensions since enough time has passed. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
It's still too early to really judge anything that Veach has done aside from his contracts. We can look back now and see
I'm not sure why we cant say Dorsey was damn good a drafting players and building this team. Who here wasn't shocked when he was fired? Thats right, we ALL were.
While also realizing Veach hasnt had near enough time to even evaluate yet. It doesnt have to be one or the other.
We are the BEST team in the AFC. We are about to find out if we are the best team in the NFL!!
We are in a pretty good situation guys and both of these men had a hand in it.