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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

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backinblack 09:58 AM 04-09-2020
Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy:
Got a bad feeling NFL season is going to see stadiums with hardly any fans
This seems like a best case scenario at this point. Ideally we want normal games packed with fans sure, but if it’s decided that empty stadiums are the only way we can have a football season this year, I’ll take it. It’s better than nothing.
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Monticore 09:59 AM 04-09-2020
Originally Posted by kgrund:
I would argue that only number initially is who has had it. Do we really care if new cases are going up if over 70% of the population has already had it and the most vulnerable are protected in some capacity? We obviously care as lives are at risk, but context in those whole thing is huge. Step #1 going forward: Determine how big of a problem we have.
People who are immune might not be immune for ever it might be a long time and they don’t know if you are immune to all strains that I have seen yet.
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Monticore 10:02 AM 04-09-2020
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88:
If you look at the recent data for the COVID-19 deaths in New York, 86% of all deaths were among people who had underlying health issues, specifically hypertension and diabetes. (Source: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...es/2960151001/)

That is a very defined high risk group category.

About 100 million Americans have hypertension and diabetes.

Roughly about 30% of the population have those conditions.

That's still better than having 97% of the population under total social distancing measures.
What about asthma , heart disease , lung disease, cancer, gi liver disease , renal disease , immunodeficiency, elderly there is some overlap but that all ads up.
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petegz28 10:03 AM 04-09-2020
Now they are saying deaths will peak on Sunday
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OnTheWarpath15 10:04 AM 04-09-2020
Originally Posted by Monticore:
What about asthma , heart disease , lung disease, cancer, gi liver disease , renal disease , immunodeficiency, elderly
You're wasting your time.
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Mecca 10:05 AM 04-09-2020
Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15:
You're wasting your time.
How about just being a minority since some data says it affects them harder?
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FloridaMan88 10:07 AM 04-09-2020
Originally Posted by Monticore:
What about asthma , heart disease , lung disease, cancer, gi liver disease , renal disease , immunodeficiency, elderly there is some overlap but that all ads up.
The New York data is pretty clear, 86% of COVID-19 deaths are among people with hypertension and diabetes.
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kgrund 10:08 AM 04-09-2020
Originally Posted by Monticore:
People who are immune might not be immune for ever it might be a long time and they don’t know if you are immune to all strains that I have seen yet.
Do not disagree with this, but it does not change what I said. We have to determine the extent of spread we already have. The dynamics going forward changes dramatically once we have a better answer to that question.
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jd1020 10:08 AM 04-09-2020
Originally Posted by Mecca:
How about just being a minority since some data says it affects them harder?
How about just being a man since the data shows men are more at risk than women?
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Mecca 10:09 AM 04-09-2020
Originally Posted by jd1020:
How about just being a man since the data shows men are more at risk than women?
So basically you need to be a young white woman in good health......see this is why Sweden is doing ok without social distancing.
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Monticore 10:09 AM 04-09-2020
Originally Posted by Mecca:
How about just being a minority since some data says it affects them harder?
* awaits smart ass comment from DC idiot*
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BryanBusby 10:10 AM 04-09-2020
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88:
The New York data is pretty clear, 86% of COVID-19 deaths are among people with hypertension and diabetes.
Not sure how data can be clear when it hasn't even been collected properly from the start.
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Mecca 10:11 AM 04-09-2020
Originally Posted by BryanBusby:
Not sure how data can be clear when it hasn't even been collected properly from the start.
This would be like if you said your penis was large but you only surveyed people with tiny penises.
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Monticore 10:11 AM 04-09-2020
Originally Posted by kgrund:
Do not disagree with this, but it does not change what I said. We have to determine the extent of spread we already have. The dynamics going forward changes dramatically once we have a better answer to that question.
Yes you are correct , serology testing would be very helpful.
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OnTheWarpath15 10:12 AM 04-09-2020
Originally Posted by BryanBusby:
Not sure how data can be clear when it hasn't even been collected properly from the start.
If you read his link, you'll learn that he's not even clear on his own data.
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