Yes 22 10.53%

No 179 85.65%

I drink Tequila Rose...like Gaz 8 3.83%

Joeckel doesn't fit Reid's "LT" players, based on history.
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I'll bet you anything we dont have the 2nd overall pick next year.
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How does that count? He was already up top. I said, "sell the house to move UP and secure a QB".
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Marginal at best
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Say what the fuck you will, they did what had to be done. And if you can't get behind that kind of move, then you obviously don't want a legit QB.
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I did. Geno is not a franchise QB like you are claiming. Hell he's not that great of a QB prospect at that.

If we take a QB, I want a guy who we believe can be a franchise QB one day. It's obvious that we aren't the only one's who believe Geno isn't that guy.

The LT's are the best prospects in this draft and that's our plan.
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We are drafting BPA and Joeckel is the BPA. Him or Fisher. One of the LT's, unless we can't trade Albert.

We don't trade Albert and it's Dion Jordan time.
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Name them. I'll wait.
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So bpa doesn't account for need and or positional value?

If joeckel and fisher are bpa, an that's what we are drafting why does itatter in terms of what they do with Albert?
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Joeckel gonna be better than Albert :-)
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No, you're not answering his question.

His question is at what point does positional value overtake individual player value.

I hesitate to paraphrase, but his thinking is that no LT will ever have 1:1 value. So he will always choose a "lesser" player at another position over the top LT.

Meaning to him, if he agrees for the sake of argument that Geno is not a franchise QB, he would still take him over any of the tackle prospects, despite their (again, theoretical for the sake of argument) higher grades.

So basically a QB with a 91 rating is more valuable than a LT with a 98.

(This happens to be my thinking as well)

His point was at what point to you agree with that, if ever? And then further, with which positions would that be true?

Is that a fair characterization SNR?
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BPA will determine what Dorsey values more a LT or a QB.
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Yeah, who do you think we are? The Raiders?
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Again if we use the same reasons we do for why geno doesn't fit, based on Reid's history, how does joeckel fit? He's not a big physical lt. Doesn't have elite measurables either.


If they take a lt, i don't see it being him
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I wouldn't be surprised if we draft a LT and keep Albert regardless.

QB is not a need now. We have our guy. And he's going to be here awhile. Let it go.
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