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Nzoner's Game Room>Let's talk about the 49ers (Super Bowl Edition)
TLO 07:03 PM 01-19-2020
Well Chiefs vs Packers is what I had hoped for, but that's not happening.

Let's talk about Chiefs vs 49ers here.
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BangbangNinerGang 11:22 AM 01-22-2020
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
Hang on a second, man.

Weren’t you one of the guys shit talking about how good and powerful the NFC was yesterday?

Two of those 3 teams you’re laughing at were the #2 and #6 seed in your conference.

The Chiefs beat one of them (who beat the brakes off NFC #3 in the wild card round) with a QB who was teaching math and coaching football at a high school until Andy Reid called him up.

Your conference’s #2 seed eked out a victory against that same math teacher QB, needing a few vintage miracle plays from Rodgers to do so (including a TD on a play that I believe Next Gen Stats concluded had a 2 percent chance of success).

You should probably stop this line of reasoning.
I wouldn't defend the entire NFC, but I will say we have the best division in the NFC West.
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A8bil 11:22 AM 01-22-2020
Originally Posted by kcclone:
From listening to the talking heads, we basically have no shot against this 49er front 4.
When healthy, they have overwhelmed a lot of good OLs. That said, they are made for speed and outside of Buckner, are pretty light across the board. They can be worn down by a physical offensive line.
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The Franchise 11:23 AM 01-22-2020
Originally Posted by Hern:
Ma boy Christopher. This is definitely going to be a tough task for us to contain Mahomes. I really hope our pass rush can get to him. Would really hate got this guy to scramble around to the point where out Dline is gassed. Plus with those receivers y’all got with all that speed... that’s asking for trouble. This is going to require not only our amazing front 4 to get to Mahomes quick, but the rotational guys also have to step up. I really hope they activate Damontre Moore for this one.

Side note, what player do you think will be used to cover the best TE in the league Kittle??
See the thing is....the best TE in football is Kelce and he’s on our team.
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Hern 11:23 AM 01-22-2020
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
He’s also good for a couple of stupid throws a game. Shanahan hasn’t asked him to do much since he threw that INT against the Vikings.

100% agree with this. Easily the most frustrating part of Jimmy G. He’ll definitely have those throws that’ll make you catch your head. Would’ve thrown more picks if so many potential picks weren’t dropped.
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The Franchise 11:24 AM 01-22-2020
The way this game is going to be won by the 9ers is by getting constant pressure with 4, successfully running the ball and limiting what Garrapolo has to do.
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Chris Meck 11:25 AM 01-22-2020
Originally Posted by Hern:
Ma boy Christopher. This is definitely going to be a tough task for us to contain Mahomes. I really hope our pass rush can get to him. Would really hate got this guy to scramble around to the point where out Dline is gassed. Plus with those receivers y’all got with all that speed... that’s asking for trouble. This is going to require not only our amazing front 4 to get to Mahomes quick, but the rotational guys also have to step up. I really hope they activate Damontre Moore for this one.

Side note, what player do you think will be used to cover the best TE in the league Kittle??
There won't be a one on one matchup. That's not how we do things. Sometimes it'll be Honey Badger. Sometimes they'll bracket him with two players. Sometimes it will be a safety, sometimes a corner, sometimes a linebacker short and pass off to a safety, or a corner.

And it will be different from play to play, and they'll disguise what the coverage is right up to the snap.
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A8bil 11:25 AM 01-22-2020
Originally Posted by DRM08:
I’m surprised Vegas is not favoring the Niners by 7+ points. They are pretty loaded with talent on both sides of the ball and very good coaching. Their fanbase seems pretty arrogant to me. They seem to be expecting a 20-30 point blowout in their favor. Maybe it happens. But I think it will be a pretty competitive game and 50/50 chance on who wins it. If the Niners lose, that is gonna be a hell of a letdown for a huge chunk of their fanbase expecting an easy victory.
Only knucklehead 49er fans see a blow out like that. Just look at the Packers NFC championship game...49ers controlled the first half, but GB slowly got themselves back into contention because the 49ers stayed conservative and GB started to move the ball with a screen / short yardage passing game. KC is better than GB.
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R Clark 11:25 AM 01-22-2020
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
Hang on a second, man.

Weren’t you one of the guys shit talking about how good and powerful the NFC was yesterday?

Two of those 3 teams you’re laughing at were the #2 and #6 seed in your conference.

The Chiefs beat one of them (who beat the brakes off NFC #3 in the wild card round) with a QB who was teaching math and coaching football at a high school until Andy Reid called him up.

Your conference’s #2 seed eked out a victory against that same math teacher QB, needing a few vintage miracle plays from Rodgers to do so (including a TD on a play that I believe Next Gen Stats concluded had a 2 percent chance of success).

You should probably stop this line of reasoning.
Lol that should shut that bs down
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CaliforniaChief 11:25 AM 01-22-2020
I'm less worried about the perimeter of their pass rush than the interior. Mahomes has been masterful lately at stepping in away from the perimeter rush and extending the play. But if the 49ers get a push inside, it makes it a little harder.

Even so, he can still make those amazing plays to extend and then expose their secondary.
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Chris Meck 11:26 AM 01-22-2020
Originally Posted by BangbangNinerGang:
Finally something we can agree on- we do not have the best player in football. But we do have the best team.

Noooo. Nope. No.
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DRM08 11:27 AM 01-22-2020
Originally Posted by A8bil:
Only knucklehead 49er fans see a blow out like that. Just look at the Packers NFC championship game...49ers controlled the first half, but GB slowly got themselves back into contention because the 49ers stayed conservative and GB started to move the ball with a screen / short yardage passing game. KC is better than GB.
Yeah, I think it could be a fun shootout. Would be cool to see both teams in the 40’s. Heck of a lot more entertaining than last year’s Super Bowl. Lol
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DJ's left nut 11:27 AM 01-22-2020
Originally Posted by Hern:
100% agree with this. Easily the most frustrating part of Jimmy G. He’ll definitely have those throws that’ll make you catch your head. Would’ve thrown more picks if so many potential picks weren’t dropped.
And this may also be what turns the game.

You can usually count on our DBs (specifically our safeties) to drop at least one interception/gm. Fuller overran one on Sunday because he didn't have his head up on a deflection at the goalline and then Sorensen had one just bounce of his hands.

Mathieu, for his reputation as a ballhawk, has some of the most inexplicable drops I've ever seen. He has at at least 3 complete gimmes go through his hands or off his chest this year.

If the Chiefs defensive backs give Garappolo a couple extra possessions by not simply catching some of the mistakes he'll make, that could be huge.
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A8bil 11:28 AM 01-22-2020
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
Give it a week and 3/4 of their fan base won’t give a shit that they lost.
There certainly are a lot of fair weather fans (of every team), but the hardcore 49er fanbase is not that different than KC. The seat prices at Levi Stadium has weeded out a lot of hardcore fans, but they're still there.
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pugsnotdrugs19 11:28 AM 01-22-2020
I look for Kittle to be bracketed in situations where they expect him to run intermediate to deep routes... Mathieu can handle whichever receiver is in the slot for the most part. I think you have to take your chances with Sanders, Samuel, etc. when lined up outside and just make Jimmy beat you with tough throws.
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Chris Meck 11:28 AM 01-22-2020
Originally Posted by A8bil:
Only knucklehead 49er fans see a blow out like that. Just look at the Packers NFC championship game...49ers controlled the first half, but GB slowly got themselves back into contention because the 49ers stayed conservative and GB started to move the ball with a screen / short yardage passing game. KC is better than GB.
We almost beat Green Bay with Matt fucking Moore and Cam fucking Erving playing left tackle.

It took a miracle throw from Rodgers to beat us.

Oh, and we didn't have Suggs, or Pennel, and I think Jones was injured.
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