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Nzoner's Game Room>****Official 2017 NBA Playoffs Thread****
KC_Connection 07:49 PM 04-14-2017
The real season begins.

Round 1:

EAST:

#8 Bulls @ #1 Celtics
#7 Pacers @ #2 Cavs
#6 Bucks @ #3 Raptors
#5 Hawks @ #4 Wizards

WEST:
#8 Blazers @ #1 Warriors
#7 Grizzlies @ #2 Spurs
#6 Thunder @ #3 Rockets
#5 Jazz @ #4 Clippers
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BigCatDaddy 06:53 PM 06-05-2017
Originally Posted by kPhobia:
Article on ESPN

72-10 Bulls would be +300 according to Vegas against this Warriors team

Warriors -360

So you can wrap your head around this,

That would be like the Royals playing at the Dodgers and Kershaw would be pitching against Chris Young.

Yet, you think LeBron is a choker because he can't beat this team.

BRILLIANT!
After game 1 last year Warriors were -380... but Vegas!
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Hootie 06:53 PM 06-05-2017
uh, moron

(and I know you're dumb)

why do you think LeBron didn't score in the 4th quarter of those games?

Any guesses?

It wasn't because, you know, ...the games were over? They conceded both games with like 10 minutes left in the 4th quarters.

There is nothing LeBron can do to beat this team. Nothing.

It's an unstoppable juggernaut that is going to ruin the NBA.
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Hootie 06:55 PM 06-05-2017
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy:
After game 1 last year Warriors were -380... but Vegas!
uh, what?

This article is on ESPN.com, right now, and it's professional Vegas handicappers telling you what they'd set a hypothetical series of the 96 Bulls and the 17 Warriors at ... Bulls +300, Warriors -360

and last year the Warriors SHOULD HAVE WON the title - the Cavs got insanely lucky LeBron goaded Draymond into 86'ing himself from a game

...and then the Warriors added Kevin Durant

Real fucking cool, NBA.
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Hootie 06:56 PM 06-05-2017
If the Warriors were smart, at all, they'd tank game 3 on purpose. No joke. Losing a game and winning 4-1 would be WORLD'S BETTER for their legacy than a sweep. A sweep will go down as a giant asterisk. I'd elaborate, but you guys are so fucking dumb that it's not even worth my 109 WPM explanation
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Prison Bitch 06:57 PM 06-05-2017
Originally Posted by kPhobia:
If the Warriors were smart, at all, they'd tank game 3 on purpose. No joke. Losing a game and winning 4-1 would be WORLD'S BETTER for their legacy than a sweep. A sweep will go down as a giant asterisk. I'd elaborate, but you guys are so ****ing dumb that it's not even worth my 109 WPM explanation
Please shoot yourself. ASAP.
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BigCatDaddy 06:58 PM 06-05-2017
Originally Posted by kPhobia:
uh, what?

This article is on ESPN.com, right now, and it's professional Vegas handicappers telling you what they'd set a hypothetical series of the 96 Bulls and the 17 Warriors at ... Bulls +300, Warriors -360

and last year the Warriors SHOULD HAVE WON the title - the Cavs got insanely lucky LeBron goaded Draymond into 86'ing himself from a game

...and then the Warriors added Kevin Durant

Real ****ing cool, NBA.
That's cool. Like I said Vegas had Warriors a higher underdog after game 1 and whiffed. Vegas means jack shit.
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Hootie 06:59 PM 06-05-2017
...my point had nothing to do with what Vegas handicapping means, you idiot

Vegas favored the Bulls to win 6 out of 6 of their NBA titles

The Cavs came into this one as -300+ dogs from what I remember seeing

...yet, if LeBron doesn't win, he's a choker

You all should be pissed. This GSW team is so good ... they aren't even giving you a chance to see a 'LeChoke' ... the games are never close enough
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Hammock Parties 07:00 PM 06-05-2017
Originally Posted by kPhobia:

why do you think LeBron didn't score in the 4th quarter of those games?

Any guesses?
He also disappeared in the third quarter, though not as badly.

There is a clear downtrend to his performance in both second halves.

Probably just getting older and can't keep it up as long. Not what he used to be. Shame.

This is a bit like watching Montana in KC.
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Hootie 07:01 PM 06-05-2017
For context,

Cavs huge dogs to Spurs. 'LeSweep'
Heat were huge favorites over Mavs. That was a 'LeChoke.'
Heat were favorites over Thunder. Won.
Heat were slight favorites over Spurs. Won (almost a 'LeChoke').
Heat were even/on with Spurs. Lost ('LeChoke', I guess)
Heat were big dogs to Warriors. Lost ('LeChoke', I guess)
Heat were big dogs to Warriors. Won ('LeClutch', I guess)
Heat were REALLY big dogs to Warriors. Down 0-2

Jordan was ALWAYS the favorite - and Jordan was great, and always made sure his team won. That's great - but they were always SUPPOSED to win.

I could explain it more slowly, but it doesn't appear like you guys are big sports fans.
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BigCatDaddy 07:02 PM 06-05-2017
Originally Posted by kPhobia:
...my point had nothing to do with what Vegas handicapping means, you idiot

Vegas favored the Bulls to win 6 out of 6 of their NBA titles

The Cavs came into this one as -300+ dogs from what I remember seeing

...yet, if LeBron doesn't win, he's a choker

You all should be pissed. This GSW team is so good ... they aren't even giving you a chance to see a 'LeChoke' ... the games are never close enough
I blame Lebron for originating the Super Team concept making it ok for Durant to follow his lead. Fucking irony.
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KC_Connection 07:03 PM 06-05-2017
LeBron is at the Montana in KC level of his decline. Now I've heard it all. :-)
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Hootie 07:03 PM 06-05-2017
once again - LeBron didn't originate the 'super team' concept - if anyone originated it in the LeBron era, it was the Celtics with KG, Pierce and Allen.

Duh.

God you're dumb.
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Hootie 07:04 PM 06-05-2017
Clay, do you understand rotations in the NBA?

LeBron plays the first 12 - team is close. Rests, team gets down by double digits. Comes back in - team closes to within 4. 3rd quarter ... plays the entire time ... GS is like a god damn avalanche, get up by 14+ in both games - effectively ending the game. Then, you have 3 minutes in the 4th to get the game to within 10 or so or the game is basically over - both games, the Warriors were like a god damn avalanche and it was done.

He didn't have strong 2nd halves because the games didn't play out that way - both games, by 9 minutes in the 4th, the games were over.

Watch a fucking NBA game other than the Finals for the past 20 years and you'd understand how blowouts work on a player's stat line
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KC_Connection 07:04 PM 06-05-2017
Originally Posted by kPhobia:
uh, moron

(and I know you're dumb)

why do you think LeBron didn't score in the 4th quarter of those games?

Any guesses?

It wasn't because, you know, ...the games were over? They conceded both games with like 10 minutes left in the 4th quarters.

There is nothing LeBron can do to beat this team. Nothing.

It's an unstoppable juggernaut that is going to ruin the NBA.
Bingo. Anybody who watched both games and is being honest with themselves knows why LeBron didn't bother to exert himself in the 4th in each one. The Warriors essentially finished them off in the 3rd in each one.
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Hammock Parties 07:06 PM 06-05-2017
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
LeBron is at the Montana in KC level of his decline. Now I've heard it all. :-)
He looked exhausted last night.

Five years ago he might have been able to pull this off but not anymore. The mileage is catching up to him.

That's what you get when you try to do everything yourself out of egomania, instead of focusing on real team basketball.
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