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O.city 03:24 PM 02-05-2019
We don't really have one of these yet, so figured we could use this as a place to discuss potential free agent acquisitions and what we would like to look for them to bring in.

If any of you guys are interested, heres a good place to do some research.

https://overthecap.com/
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pugsnotdrugs19 01:24 PM 03-05-2019
Originally Posted by O.city:
Yes, highest paid safety in football value of tackling RB's.
Spags obviously has a designed role in his defense that fits him perfectly, hence the All-Pro selection/borderline DPOTY season.

They aren’t gonna ask him to do a bunch of shit that he can’t physically do.
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O.city 01:27 PM 03-05-2019
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
Spags obviously has a designed role in his defense that fits him perfectly, hence the All-Pro selection/borderline DPOTY season.

They aren’t gonna ask him to do a bunch of shit that he can’t physically do.
SO DON"T PAY HIM THAT MUCH.

Why would you pay a guy that much if there are things he can't physically do?
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St. Patty's Fire 01:27 PM 03-05-2019
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
Spags obviously has a designed role in his defense that fits him perfectly, hence the All-Pro selection/borderline DPOTY season.

They aren’t gonna ask him to do a bunch of shit that he can’t physically do.
Yeah Sutton isn’t the DC anymore

I’m extremely confident that Spags can use Collins in a way that makes him extremely effective for us
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pugsnotdrugs19 01:28 PM 03-05-2019
Originally Posted by O.city:
SO DON"T PAY HIM THAT MUCH.

Why would you pay a guy that much if there are things he can't physically do?
Do you not recall my post from an hour ago? I said they should set a price and not go above it. Somewhere near $10M per year probably.
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ToxSocks 01:29 PM 03-05-2019
Originally Posted by JohnDONsey:
Yeah Sutton isn’t the DC anymore

I’m extremely confident that Spags can use Collins in a way that makes him extremely effective for us
What the hell has Spags ever done to earn "Extreme" confidence?
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ToxSocks 01:29 PM 03-05-2019
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
Somewhere near $10M per year probably.
Then don't even bother to pick up the phone. Spare yourself, and Collins the wasted time.
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pugsnotdrugs19 01:30 PM 03-05-2019
Originally Posted by Detoxing:
What the hell has Spags ever done to earn "Extreme" confidence?
Well in this particular case that he’s referring to, he had Collins once playing st an All-Pro level.
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pugsnotdrugs19 01:30 PM 03-05-2019
Originally Posted by Detoxing:
Then don't even bother to pick up the phone. Spare yourself, and Collins the wasted time.
So you’re admitting that he’s worth more than that?

If he’s so limited like some of you suggest, why would he get much more?
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St. Patty's Fire 01:31 PM 03-05-2019
Originally Posted by Detoxing:
What the hell has Spags ever done to earn "Extreme" confidence?
I mean the guy coached Collins when he was at his best

I think we can say Spags knows how to get the best from collins.
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O.city 01:31 PM 03-05-2019
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
So you’re admitting that he’s worth more than that?

If he’s so limited like some of you suggest, why would he get much more?
Because once you hit the market, you're worth what the bidding puts you at.

Was Sammy Watkins worth what we paid last year? Before he signed it, would you have been ok with that? Once you get in the market, shit gets crazy.
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Iconic 01:33 PM 03-05-2019
Yeah Collins is getting more than 10m per on the open market. The only way to get him is to overpay, and we shouldn't be the ones to do that.

Just imagine paying 12m per to a safety that can't cover.

Please no.
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RunKC 01:34 PM 03-05-2019
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
Do you not recall my post from an hour ago? I said they should set a price and not go above it. Somewhere near $10M per year probably.
Still too much for a box safety with limited coverage skills IMO.
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pugsnotdrugs19 01:35 PM 03-05-2019
Originally Posted by O.city:
Because once you hit the market, you're worth what the bidding puts you at.

Was Sammy Watkins worth what we paid last year? Before he signed it, would you have been ok with that? Once you get in the market, shit gets crazy.
In many cases sure, but not always. Last year most safeties didn’t get nearly what they were expected to be paid.
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pugsnotdrugs19 01:38 PM 03-05-2019
Derwin James and Jamal Adams played the majority of their 2018 snaps in the box. So you can’t tell me that there’s no value in that style of player.
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Sassy Squatch 01:40 PM 03-05-2019
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
Derwin James and Jamal Adams played the majority of their 2018 snaps in the box. So you can’t tell me that there’s no value in that style of player.
The problem is we are already paying a guy for that spot.
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