Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
3rd rounder that we moved up to get. I mean 76th overall ain't nothin'.
The Achilles hurt him badly; he was never a guy that could get in/out of his breaks worth a damn and it only seemed to get worse after the achilles. He was truly valuable for us in 2016 but in '17 and '18 he was either hurt or along for the ride. In '15 he was an afterthought.
You're not always gonna do better than that with a 3rd rounder, but that's kinda the baseline of what I would say is a tolerable pick. I agree that 'bust' is a little strong, but it's not a pick that we really advanced the squad with either.
Nelson was taken later, takes FAR more heat here and was significantly more valuable to the Chiefs over his time here.
I wasn't really a Conley fan, but he was just fine for where they took him. Ultimately, same goes for Nelson.
A bust would be a Russell that didn't even make it out of fucking training camp. [Reply]
chris conley was just a permanent meh. people keep calling him solid, he wasnt he had fumble concerns. but people call as11 an accurate intermediate passer, he wasnt. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
With the CTE lawsuits going on, if he retires due to his 5th concussion (all at the NFL level), there's no way the NFL is going to want to see the Bills pursuing that signing bonus.
This is clearly a situation where a guy with a concussion history is retiring due to said concussions. I'd imagine an arbitrator would rule in his favor either way and the Bills don't want to be 'that team' when dealing with future potential FAs.
I think he could walk away if they get 4-5 weeks down the road and he's still dealing with concussion symptoms.
Why would they rule in the favor of the player now? This is not 20 years ago. CTE is a KNOWN risk. Players years ago have an argument. Players today really don't. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BWillie:
Why would they rule in the favor of the player now? This is not 20 years ago. CTE is a KNOWN risk. Players years ago have an argument. Players today really don't.
Because the risk is why he's walking away. It's clearly health related.
So how can you take back a signing bonus or salary that's guaranteed for injury when the league has all but acknowledged that the long-term damage from concussions is real?
I'm not saying he should be awarded damages, I'm saying they can't say this would be a 'voluntary' retirement in the same sense as that CB who walked out in Buffalo or Ricky Williams just wanting to get high. This would be injury related and as such I don't see how they can take back his signing bonus or his injury guarantees. [Reply]
