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htismaqe 09:48 AM 09-21-2020
Originally Posted by CasselGotPeedOn:
Lol no we won't. When is the last time we got "boat raced"?
Exactly.

This inferiority complex attached the Ravens is unbecoming of fans of the reigning Super Bowl champions!
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Mecca 09:49 AM 09-21-2020
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Exactly.

This inferiority complex attached the Ravens is unbecoming of fans of the reigning Super Bowl champions!
I actually don't understand it, Baltimores defense is pretty average and their offense is completely predicated on playing from ahead, we're everything that gives them issues.
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smithandrew051 09:48 AM 09-21-2020
Originally Posted by CasselGotPeedOn:
Lol no we won't. When is the last time we got "boat raced"?
With Mahomes? Never.

In fact, every Mahomes loss has had at least one of the following:

-Slow start by the offense
-Turnovers at the worst times
-Key players injured (Fisher, Hill, Houston, etc)

If we lose, it’s always 8 or less.
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RaidersOftheCellar 09:47 AM 09-21-2020
I've read that the retirement of Yanda has noticeably weakened their O-line.
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ThaVirus 12:23 PM 09-21-2020
Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar:
I've read that the retirement of Yanda has noticeably weakened their O-line.
He's been a big loss for them. The Texans and Browns were both able to apply a lot of pressure in their games against them.

We'll need our D line to show up for this one.
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Mecca 12:32 PM 09-21-2020
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
He's been a big loss for them. The Texans and Browns were both able to apply a lot of pressure in their games against them.

We'll need our D line to show up for this one.
I was encouraged by the play of Danna and Taco yesterday.
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smithandrew051 09:51 AM 09-21-2020
Sure seems like the Ravens are always thought to have an “elite defense”. Maybe people just remember the Ray Lewis-Ed Reed days.

Their defense was nothing special last year. And it’s nothing special this year.
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ThaVirus 12:20 PM 09-21-2020
Originally Posted by wazu:
I was glad to see this as well, but the concussion protocol doesn't care about what a player thinks about their situation. He looked like he could barely walk yesterday after that hit. I'll be absolutely shocked if he's on the field next week.
We really can't be sure. Wilson had a similar issue after his collision with Herbert and he was back out there a few minutes later.
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DelaWhere? 08:56 PM 09-21-2020
Originally Posted by smithandrew051:
Sure seems like the Ravens are always thought to have an “elite defense”. Maybe people just remember the Ray Lewis-Ed Reed days.

Their defense was nothing special last year. And it’s nothing special this year.
Ravens were a top 3 defense last year.

This year through the first two games, the Ravens lead the NFL in fewest points allowed (22), takeaways (five) and have allowed the third-lowest quarterback rating (76.8) to opposing quarterbacks. After racking up four sacks and 13 quarterback hits in Week 2.

Granted they did play the Browns Week 1.
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Coach 08:59 PM 09-21-2020
Originally Posted by DelaWhere?:
Ravens were a top 3 defense last year.

This year through the first two games, the Ravens lead the NFL in fewest points allowed (22), takeaways (five) and have allowed the third-lowest quarterback rating (76.8) to opposing quarterbacks. After racking up four sacks and 13 quarterback hits in Week 2.

Granted they did play the Browns Week 1.
Strong first opening post. I can get that point of view. But the Texans aren't that good either as they have O'Brien as their coach and outside of Watson, they really don't have much playmakers.

I mean, the Chiefs literally drugged them across the field in week 1 as well. The final score is misleading as it looks closer than it appears. It was 31-7 by the 4th quarter.

I would also caution that last year could be a little misleading because having the luxury of playing the awful Browns, Pittsburgh with no Big Ben, and the horrendous Bungels twice. Just something to ponder about.
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DaneMcCloud 09-21-2020, 09:04 PM
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DaneMcCloud 09:08 PM 09-21-2020
Originally Posted by DelaWhere?:
Ravens were a top 3 defense last year.
The Dolphins, Cardinals, Browns twice, Bengals twice, Rams, Bills, Steelers without Ben twice and the Jets all helped them achieve that #3 ranking.
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Coochie liquor 07:37 AM 09-22-2020
Originally Posted by DelaWhere?:
Ravens were a top 3 defense last year.

This year through the first two games, the Ravens lead the NFL in fewest points allowed (22), takeaways (five) and have allowed the third-lowest quarterback rating (76.8) to opposing quarterbacks. After racking up four sacks and 13 quarterback hits in Week 2.

Granted they did play the Browns Week 1.
Chiefs were SB champs last year. Welcome to 2020. Your O line is worse as well as your defense. Lamar looks the same, can’t read defenses and go through all the progressions. I think our offense will be more than your defense can handle. Can’t wait to watch Harbaugh start outsmarting himself with analytics and failing. Better hope you get a lead cuz we’ve seen how Lamar reacts under those situations vs Patrick!
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DelaWhere? 08:31 AM 09-22-2020
Originally Posted by Coochie liquor:
Chiefs were SB champs last year. Welcome to 2020. Your O line is worse as well as your defense. Lamar looks the same, can’t read defenses and go through all the progressions. I think our offense will be more than your defense can handle. Can’t wait to watch Harbaugh start outsmarting himself with analytics and failing. Better hope you get a lead cuz we’ve seen how Lamar reacts under those situations vs Patrick!
You must be one of those fans that only watch your team, which is obvious by your comments. Lamar goes through his progressions pretty well actually, especially given his age and the fact that he knows how dynamic he can be with his legs. The Ravens have made a point to spread the ball much more this season and not force feed their TE's.

This isn't 100% directed at you but, Ravens fans do not think Lamar is better than Mahomes, lets be clear on that to people on here. This narrative that our Defense isn't good is pretty funny though. The Tavon injury was pretty big but not something that is so catostrophic that we can't come back from it. Wink will scheme up ways to hide or deficiencies. The O-line is a concern but without an extended training camp we knew it would take some games for that to come together. This is a very good Ravens team. Not unbeatable by any stretch.
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UChieffyBugger 08:53 AM 09-22-2020
Originally Posted by DelaWhere?:
You must be one of those fans that only watch your team, which is obvious by your comments. Lamar goes through his progressions pretty well actually, especially given his age and the fact that he knows how dynamic he can be with his legs. The Ravens have made a point to spread the ball much more this season and not force feed their TE's.

This isn't 100% directed at you but, Ravens fans do not think Lamar is better than Mahomes, lets be clear on that to people on here. This narrative that our Defense isn't good is pretty funny though. The Tavon injury was pretty big but not something that is so catostrophic that we can't come back from it. Wink will scheme up ways to hide or deficiencies. The O-line is a concern but without an extended training camp we knew it would take some games for that to come together. This is a very good Ravens team. Not unbeatable by any stretch.
The major issue for your defense is your pass-rush has been sub standard and you can't get home with just four...therefore Pat is likely to have time unless you blitz..and if you blitz it's a very bad idea. Your secondary has not faced an offense like ours either. Last time we played we had no Tyreek, Fisher or Williams..whereas we've faced Lamar twice already. We've also faced other teams who run the ball a lot like the Titans and Niners. The Ravens D got diced up the last time they faced Pat and even Peters has been great for yall he was on the field when Pat put 50 on the Rams. It should be a great game though.
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