Originally Posted by Stryker:
Ok, forgive me, since BR is out as our oline coach who takes his place? Do we believe in said replacement for our oline to BEGIN with?
Originally Posted by Stryker:
Ok, forgive me, since BR is out as our oline coach who takes his place? Do we believe in said replacement for our oline to BEGIN with?
Huh?
Pretty sure Britt was an assistant linebackers coach. [Reply]
Is it that all of the tackle prospects have some rather significant flaws as left tackles or is it that they are being overanalyzed?
Is the crop, as a hole being overrated?
Christian Darrisaw - Notable issues in pass pro with hand placement/technique but seems to have the rest.
Samuel Cosmi - Clear lack of strength. Slow off the ball. Balance and hand placement issues. That said, shows elite-level athleticism. Is he moldable clay or not?
Rashawn Slater - Seems to have it all in spades, except arm length which is a troubling 33 inches.
Liam Eichenberg - Put down the best pass rushers he faced but 32-3/8" arms are more than concerning, doesn't have great lateral agility, and lacks the athleticism to get out in space.
Dillon Radunz - Seems to have most of what you look for but bad hand placement, lacks sand in his pants, and definitely a poor level of competition.
Alex Leatherwood - Bad hand placement, stops his feet on contact, balance issues, late off the snap, movement is clunky.
Spencer Brown - consensus RT only type with great length and athleticism but a long ways to go in just about all areas.
Jalen Mayfield - inexperienced, bad hand placement, balance issues, only played RT and allowed alot of pressure
Stone Forsythe - not a mover, terribly slow and heavy feet.
Walker Little - Stiff movement, bad against inside moves, some balance issues, not the quickest off the snap, hasn't played in nearly 2 seasons.
Teven Jenkins- Balance issues, lacks awareness, hand placement and overall technique needs refinement, not enough time at LT.
Brady Christensen - Doesn't move well in space, needs to add strength, struggles with speed, moderate competition
Most of the rest are being talked about as guards because of severe limitations in length or movement.
So where do the Chiefs go?
It seems like Slater will get snatched up by someone early because he's an elite guard prospect if they don't see him as a tackle, and he's better than anyone else in this class to take a chance on at LT sans Sewell.
Darrisaw and Jenkins are the only others I've seen consistently in round 1. Many seem to think Darrisaw is there in the 19-20 range and with Washington at 19 being his home, they may be inclined to take him. Is he worth a trade to 18? I don't know.
Jenkins is getting a lot of play at the 24-25 range. I see him as a RT, but I'm not in the consensus. Maybe I'm over-evaluating. He certainly seems to come with the most correctable issues. The Jets seem like a logical trade partner at 23 if that's the case, and should only cost a 3rd (possibly 3 and 4).
If KC had a legit starter for this season, I'd heavily favor Radunz.
Most analysts seem to project a lot of the rest to be there for KC at 31 or beyond.
So, are the issues outlined legitimate enough to make KC pass or are they being overblown by over-analysis? I have a hard time thinking they'd not be enticed by coaching up a guy like Cosmi but maybe he's just not good enough. [Reply]
I kind of like Radunz too. The right side should be okay. Remmers was okay on the RT spot last year. If Niang beats Remmers out, in theory we will be even better on the right side. Again, in theory, we should be much better on all three of the interior spots. We could roll with Radunz on the LT spot, and give him a little help with either a TE on his side, or a RB keeping an eye that direction if a play calls for Mahomes needing a little extra time while Radunz is getting more "sand in his pants" to handle the strength part of the job. Then, eventually, you would hope Radunz will be able to handle the LT spot on his own, as you would expect from any LT. But, if need be, give him some help early while he is learning, and trust the other 4 spots to do their job. [Reply]
Is it that all of the tackle prospects have some rather significant flaws as left tackles or is it that they are being overanalyzed?
Yes and Yes.
And even more to the point, they're all being over analyzed by media types in a general way rather than a SPECIFIC way.
By that I mean that a player's specific skills may be perfect for one team and not another. It's difficult to know for sure what an individual GM and coaching staff will view as important and what they'll see as coachable issues. Orlando Brown Jr. may well be a perfect LT for a team like the Ravens, but isn't the best fit for a pass happy team like KC, for example. He'd be a good fit for like...The Titans, for example.
You can't coach out the measurables; the height, weight, reach, etc. Or probably not the 'quicks' or lack thereof. 40 time is probably irrelevant for OL but technique can be fixed.
So what do we kind of know about Andy Reid OT's? Are there strong tendencies in the measurables? I would expect you could assume you'd want to look at smart, hard workers. [Reply]
And even more to the point, they're all being over analyzed by media types in a general way rather than a SPECIFIC way.
By that I mean that a player's specific skills may be perfect for one team and not another. It's difficult to know for sure what an individual GM and coaching staff will view as important and what they'll see as coachable issues. Orlando Brown Jr. may well be a perfect LT for a team like the Ravens, but isn't the best fit for a pass happy team like KC, for example. He'd be a good fit for like...The Titans, for example.
You can't coach out the measurables; the height, weight, reach, etc. Or probably not the 'quicks' or lack thereof. 40 time is probably irrelevant for OL but technique can be fixed.
So what do we kind of know about Andy Reid OT's? Are there strong tendencies in the measurables? I would expect you could assume you'd want to look at smart, hard workers.
It just shows me that screaming “OT at #31 or we suck” is stupid. There is no sure fire starter that we are getting at #31. Your best bet is sign a stopgap, find your best 3 OTs in the first two rounds and go get one of them. Whether that’s at #31, or trading back, or trading up in the 2nd or finding a guy at #63. No one is coming in day one and locking this position down. It’s just not happening.
And I love how everyone knocks a player like Niang or Little for not playing football in a year (yes I get they had injuries as well) but they won’t to blow two first round picks to get Sewell....who hasn’t played football in a year. [Reply]