Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
Rattled? Yet another performance like that from the true GOAT would trigger me too if I was an irrational MJ backer.
Lol rattled? I thought it was a great performance in a must win game at home against a team without their two best players and not one star. When you’re being compared to a guy like MJ that is the kind of stuff you’re supposed to do.
You think it’s more than that though and it’s not. You’ll go quiet quick if they lose game 7 and he get eliminated by a team who’s MVP is their coach.
Address NWO’s post already too. You love to talk like it’s unanimous, but you flat out ignore everything Jordan has (you know, the most important stats/accolades). You have zero objectivity in this discussion because you’re Nick Wright Jr. [Reply]
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Lol rattled? I thought it was a great performance in a must win game at home against a team without their two best players and not one star. When you’re being compared to a guy like MJ that is the kind of stuff you’re supposed to do.
You think it’s more than that though and it’s not. You’ll go quiet quick if they lose game 7 and he get eliminated by a team who’s MVP is their coach.
Address NWO’s post already too. You love to talk like it’s unanimous, but you flat out ignore everything Jordan has (you know, the most important stats/accolades). You have zero objectivity in this discussion because you’re Nick Wright Jr.
If LeBron never played another game, he'd be the GOAT. When he's actually done, he'll have lapped the entire field.
This is the real truth and it becomes more recognizable with each game this guy plays. The truth that while MJ was missing the playoffs with his own bad supporting casts, LeBron has taken entire teams full of scrubs to the NBA Finals multiple times, the truth that LeBron literally has nothing else to prove in this sport (he already has better regular season and postseason stats, cumulative or rate, than anybody in history and he's not even close to being done), the truth that nobody in the history of basketball has ever played at this level before so regularly and so consistently, and the truth that by the time he's done LeBron will have absolutely shattered every record in the NBA books.
The Cavs could very well lose on Sunday (or against the Warriors/Rockets) but it doesn't matter anymore. LeBron has already passed MJ and he's not even close to being done. It's all gravy at this point. The fact that this is slowly being recognized collectively and will only become more obvious over the next few years is no doubt a fact that pains you and others like you. [Reply]
Oh I have a lot longer list than that. Basically at this point there is now way for Lebron to accomplish what Jordan did during his time he played with the Bulls. All he has is the longevity arguement. [Reply]
This is the real truth and it becomes more recognizable with each game this guy plays. The truth that while MJ was missing the playoffs with his own bad supporting casts, LeBron has taken entire teams full of scrubs to the NBA Finals multiple times, the truth that LeBron literally has nothing else to prove in this sport (he already has better regular season and postseason stats, cumulative or rate, than anybody in history and he's not even close to being done), the truth that nobody in the history of basketball has ever played at this level before so regularly and so consistently, and the truth that by the time he's done LeBron will have absolutely shattered every record in the NBA books.
The Cavs could very well lose on Sunday (or against the Warriors/Rockets) but it doesn't matter anymore. LeBron has already passed MJ and he's not even close to being done. It's all gravy at this point. The fact that this is slowly being recognized collectively and will only become more obvious over the next few years is no doubt a fact that pains you and others like you.
Sorry, what? MJ was missing playoffs? That's complete news to me. Marino shattered every passing record. Peyton shattered every record in the new generation. Would anyone take Marino over Montana? Peyton over Brady? Hell no. Lebron is going to shatter records. His longevity is simply stunning. Anyone who doesn't put him as a clear top 5 player (I have him as a clear #2), is batshit crazy. But in their prime, if you had to give me one player: MJ or Lebron... I'd take MJ every day of the week.
MJ was coachable. MJ didn't bully his front office into horrendous personnel decisions. Much as iso ball works because of Lebron's greatness, it's also a limitation to his coach & supporting cast. And clutch as Lebron may be, nobody did and ever will take over games at will the way MJ did. Lebron the past few years has clearly cemented himself as the #2 player of all time. But those intangibles make him a clear distance away from GOAT. [Reply]
:-) at ridiculous analogies being drawn to Marino/Manning (and the same dated arguments re only MJ "taking over games at will" that only moderately worked about eight years ago) in some kind of failed attempt to diminish LeBron's incredible numbers. It gets better and better. [Reply]
Originally Posted by KC_Connection: :-) at ridiculous analogies being drawn to Marino/Manning (and the same dated arguments re only MJ "taking over games at will" that only moderately worked about eight years ago) in some kind of failed attempt to diminish LeBron's incredible numbers. It gets better and better.
Says the guy that made this MJ/Lebron analogy:
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
Yeah, this is why Novak Djokovic is known as the greatest tennis player of all time, not Roger Federer.
LeBron James now averages 34.1 PPG in elimination games, the most among players who have played in at least 5 such games in NBA history (h/t @EliasSports) pic.twitter.com/bTKGtNDhij
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
Sorry, what? MJ was missing playoffs? That's complete news to me. Marino shattered every passing record. Peyton shattered every record in the new generation. Would anyone take Marino over Montana? Peyton over Brady? Hell no. Lebron is going to shatter records. His longevity is simply stunning. Anyone who doesn't put him as a clear top 5 player (I have him as a clear #2), is batshit crazy. But in their prime, if you had to give me one player: MJ or Lebron... I'd take MJ every day of the week.
MJ was coachable. MJ didn't bully his front office into horrendous personnel decisions. Much as iso ball works because of Lebron's greatness, it's also a limitation to his coach & supporting cast. And clutch as Lebron may be, nobody did and ever will take over games at will the way MJ did. Lebron the past few years has clearly cemented himself as the #2 player of all time. But those intangibles make him a clear distance away from GOAT.
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Says the guy that made this MJ/Lebron analogy
Djokovic won four slams in a row (nobody else has done that in the Open Era) and his peak (2011-2016) was even higher than Federer's by any statistical measure. Guess who is considered the GOAT still (I'll give you a hint, it isn't Djokovic).
Face it, longevity matters a ton to this particular argument and LeBron is going to absolutely annihilate MJ in that. As much as it pains all of you to accept it, Nick Wright is right, he's in the process of lapping the field. [Reply]
LeBron James now averages 34.1 PPG in elimination games, the most among players who have played in at least 5 such games in NBA history (h/t @EliasSports) pic.twitter.com/bTKGtNDhij