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Originally Posted by staylor26:
Irrelevant to my point dipshit.
Well, what evidence do you have that I'm living in some sort of echo chamber? I'm just telling you how the law works based on my experience serving on a jury for a trial that was trying to prove whether someone was negligent in committing a criminal act (though, in my case, it was criminal negligence rather than involuntary manslaughter). [Reply]
Originally Posted by DaFace:
Well, what evidence do you have that I'm living in some sort of echo chamber? I'm just telling you how the law works based on my experience on a trial that was trying to prove whether someone was negligent in committing a criminal act (though, in my case, it was criminal negligence rather than involuntary manslaughter).
Because you're 100% carrying water for the soft on crime crowd, when they've proven time and time again that they don't care how hard it is to get a conviction when it's their political enemies.
See Jordan Neely and Daniel Penny for the blatant progressive hypocrisy. [Reply]
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Because you're 100% carrying water for the soft on crime crowd, when they've proven time and time again that they don't care how hard it is to get a conviction when it's their political enemies.
See Jordan Neely and Daniel Penny.
All I can tell you is that I wasted 3 days of my life sitting through endless presentations, listening to witnesses, watching videos, and then we got to the point where we actually looked at how the law is written, and all 12 people on the jury decided that we had to say not guilty with only about 15 minutes of deliberation.
(Also, I don't even know who those people are. Despite your perception, I largely consider myself to be apolitical and assume that most politicians suck.) [Reply]
Originally Posted by DaFace:
All I can tell you is that I wasted 3 days of my life sitting through endless presentations, listening to witnesses, watching videos, and then we got to the point where we actually looked at how the law is written, and all 12 people on the jury decided that we had to say not guilty with only about 15 minutes of deliberation.
I thought that was the dumbest part of the entire process... mine was a couple days and then they told us exactly how we had to apply two days of information to the laws.
Well FFS, THAT would have been handy while listening to all the bullshit and applying the reasoning as it went on.
Mine was pretty much the same... a bunch of he said/she said bullshit with no real evidence to prove they were guilty. [Reply]
I mean probation sounds better than nothing just for the simple chance that a previous charge might put him away longer for this
Hindsight into other mass shootings seems to be 'all the warning signs were there'. On probation for accidentally blowing your buddy's head off seems like a pretty big one [Reply]
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Because you're 100% carrying water for the soft on crime crowd, when they've proven time and time again that they don't care how hard it is to get a conviction when it's their political enemies.
See Jordan Neely and Daniel Penny for the blatant progressive hypocrisy.
Speaking of political enemies, this same prosecutor in 2021 was extremely aggressive in pursuing excessive force criminal charges against KCPD officers. I'm not against doing that when appropriate, but it seemed very much to be a product of the political climate at the time.
But while that was happening, we apparently didn't have enough evidence to press charges for this case even with a confession. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Bearcat:
I thought that was the dumbest part of the entire process... mine was a couple days and then they told us exactly how we had to apply two days of information to the laws.
Well FFS, THAT would have been handy while listening to all the bullshit and applying the reasoning as it went on.
Mine was pretty much the same... a bunch of he said/she said bullshit with no real evidence to prove they were guilty.
Yeah, I assume they want you to just listen to all of the evidence before you start actually forming an opinion, but still. I definitely would have tuned out earlier if I'd realized that the trial was heading nowhere from the beginning. [Reply]
Originally Posted by wazu:
Speaking of political enemies, this same prosecutor in 2021 was extremely aggressive in pursuing excessive force criminal charges against KCPD officers. I'm not against doing that when appropriate, but it seemed very much to be a product of the political climate at the time.
But while that was happening, we apparently didn't have enough evidence to press charges for this case even with a confession.
Exactly. Anybody who pays attention to how these soft on crime DAs and politicians move knows that it's a bullshit excuse. It's really that simple. [Reply]