Originally Posted by CoMoChief:
Yeah we've all seen better performances....but in a "fight" it's kinda silly to say something like "well that wasn't the REAL Shogun". It's a fight...and you better be up for a title fight against someone like him or you're gonna get your ass kicked, and that's what happened.
btw - what was this "injury"?
He had knee surgery last June hince the year long lay off. [Reply]
Originally Posted by CoMoChief:
Yeah we've all seen better performances....but in a "fight" it's kinda silly to say something like "well that wasn't the REAL Shogun". It's a fight...and you better be up for a title fight against someone like him or you're gonna get your ass kicked, and that's what happened.
btw - what was this "injury"?
its a pay day. these guys only get so many for their career.
thats why ,IMO, so many go in at less than 100%.
also IMO shogun was not 100%. whether it was due to the knee or something else i dont know. [Reply]
Originally Posted by TheGuardian:
Do I appear to give a **** what you think about my opinion?
Your opinion is that Jones is the real deal. Mine is that he needs to show he can survive some rough spots. You yourself said that Shogun didn't appear to be 100% and apparently now there is a video floating around from a week before the fight that shows he gassed just from some heavy bag work.
So Jones beat a marshmellowed out of shape Shogun, and we're supposed to worship at his alter. No thanks. Let him win some real battles and I'll give him more props.
Dude, even a gassed Shogun is better than a lot of fighters out there.
Who's worshiping his alter? He's a good fighter, whether you want to admit it or not. Jones is the real deal. Just because he hasn't run through everyone in his class doesn't mean he's not.
Who does he have to beat to get your almighty approval? If you can't see he's the "real deal" when he fights, then i honestly don't think you know what you're looking at.
(everyone sit back and watch Guardian's vagina swell up after that last comment) [Reply]
Originally Posted by Detoxing:
Dude, even a gassed Shogun is better than a lot of fighters out there.
Who's worshiping his alter? He's a good fighter, whether you want to admit it or not. Jones is the real deal. Just because he hasn't run through everyone in his class doesn't mean he's not.
Who does he have to beat to get your almighty approval? If you can't see he's the "real deal" when he fights, then i honestly don't think you know what you're looking at.
(everyone sit back and watch Guardian's vagina swell up after that last comment)
I have my opinion and you have yours. As I noted, I don't care what you think of my opinion. My opinion is that Jones has a lot to prove.
And no out of shape fighter is worth a shit at that level of fighting. Shogun was gassed before the first round was over. He couldn't have beat a tier 2 fighter in that kind of shape. Remember this is the same Shogun that lost to Forrest. He can either be the baddest 205'er there is, or he can look like a level B guy. You never know with Shogun.
Second, you're discrediting guys that have fought a lot of guys that are top fighters while giving Jones a pass for not beating anyone yet. Talk about hypocrisy.
Jones will be the real deal IMO when he earns it. So far, he hasn't faced a lot of adversity. He beat an out of shape Shogun. Whooptee shit. I will wait until he faces and perseveres through some title fights against more top guys before I ride his jock like you are. Maybe that's why your vagina is swollen. [Reply]
I saw an article that floated a fight I would love to see, GSP v Nick Diaz. If Dana could get over his hatred of Diaz this would be a very good fight. I also like the thought of Jake Shields going back to 185 and fighting Anderson Silva, his striking is not great though. [Reply]
Originally Posted by raybec 4:
I saw an article that floated a fight I would love to see, GSP v Nick Diaz. If Dana could get over his hatred of Diaz this would be a very good fight. I also like the thought of Jake Shields going back to 185 and fighting Anderson Silva, his striking is not great though.
Diaz vs GSP does not interest me anymore then another GSP Koschek beatdown.
Shields at 185 for Silva would be interesting though. [Reply]
Originally Posted by thecoffeeguy:
Is Diaz still slated to face Daley next month?
Be interesting if Diaz decides to stand up with Daley...bad idea.
I hate Diaz but man he's got an iron chin and he just get's better every time out. His cardio is unmatched and he has an outstanding ground game [Reply]
Originally Posted by raybec 4:
I hate Diaz but man he's got an iron chin and he just get's better every time out. His cardio is unmatched and he has an outstanding ground game
Yeah, he's beat a nice list of who isn't who. I'd like to see him beat a few top 10 guys or at least 1 before putting him in there with GSP. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy:
Yeah, he's beat a nice list of who isn't who. I'd like to see him beat a few top 10 guys or at least 1 before putting him in there with GSP.
He's had a good run of tomato cans for sure, Strikeforce hasn't had much else to offer really. He doesn't have the personality that God gave a goat but he's a darn fine weed smoker and you tube videographer [Reply]