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Nzoner's Game Room>Veach's '21 Offseason Plan to Keep Us Thriving: Let's speculate
Dante84 10:03 AM 02-08-2021
In order to prevent us wasting precious years of Patrick Mahomes' career, Veach needs to work some magic this offseason. What's your advice for him?
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O.city 08:52 PM 02-18-2021
I think JJ Watt is or should be a pretty big target for kc. Can play de on early downs and kick inside in pass rush subs.

Draft Phillips at 31.

Phillips-watt- Jones-clark is a wicked front 4
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OKchiefs 09:15 PM 02-18-2021
Talk of Titans possibly trading or releasing 2020 first round pick Isaiah Wilson. He’s been a head case, but would you take a chance and offer maybe a 6th round pick?
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staylor26 09:16 PM 02-18-2021
Originally Posted by OKchiefs:
Talk of Titans possibly trading or releasing 2020 first round pick Isaiah Wilson. He’s been a head case, but would you take a chance and offer maybe a 6th round pick?
Nope. He wasn’t a very good prospect to begin with and isn’t a fit.
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The Franchise 09:16 PM 02-18-2021
Originally Posted by OKchiefs:
Talk of Titans possibly trading or releasing 2020 first round pick Isaiah Wilson. He’s been a head case, but would you take a chance and offer maybe a 6th round pick?
Nope. Dude was a first round pick and turned into an idiot.
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Sassy Squatch 09:18 PM 02-18-2021
Originally Posted by OKchiefs:
Talk of Titans possibly trading or releasing 2020 first round pick Isaiah Wilson. He’s been a head case, but would you take a chance and offer maybe a 6th round pick?
I'd sign him to a vet min but that's about it. Dude's lost his goddamned mind.
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Hammock Parties 09:20 PM 02-18-2021
Von

DOOM
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BossChief 10:27 PM 02-18-2021
Originally Posted by O.city:
I think JJ Watt is or should be a pretty big target for kc. Can play de on early downs and kick inside in pass rush subs.

Draft Phillips at 31.

Phillips-watt- Jones-clark is a wicked front 4
He or Miller paired with a premium pick DE would be a perfect use of draft capital.

Here’s my thoughts...probably file them right in the trash but here it goes.

Adding a stud defender that plays the pass and run effectively next to Jones, Clark and Nnadi would change the whole way Spags could call games. Opposing blocking units could single block our LDE all year...by adding Watt or Miller (or both) it forces opposing OLs to single block everyone and not have numbers against the blitz.

It’s like Suggs again, but getting Suggs a couple years before he fell off a cliff.

Guys like Watt and Von need to come to KC.
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htismaqe 11:11 PM 02-18-2021
Originally Posted by kccrow:
Yes, you can. Reddit is wrong on this. There's specific language in the CBA regarding the team he was playing for when the injury happened to have the tab on the recovery medical but there's nothing in there on them not being able to cut him. And, they don't have to reach an injury settlement with him either. It's all hogwash.
It didn't come from Reddit. This is one of several articles I found.

https://www.nationalfootballpost.com...ry-settlement/
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-King- 12:22 AM 02-19-2021
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
It didn't come from Reddit. This is one of several articles I found.

https://www.nationalfootballpost.com...ry-settlement/
I don't know if that applies to cutting a player during the off season.
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Chargem 02:05 AM 02-19-2021
Nate Taylor seemed to think Fish was cuttable
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Dull Tools 03:18 AM 02-19-2021
Originally Posted by Chargem:
Nate Taylor seemed to think Fish was cuttable
He basically said that all teams manage to find a way round injury settlements.
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Dull Tools 03:21 AM 02-19-2021
Originally Posted by OKchiefs:
Talk of Titans possibly trading or releasing 2020 first round pick Isaiah Wilson. He’s been a head case, but would you take a chance and offer maybe a 6th round pick?
Would be worth a conversation at least. Could sign him to the practice squad as we did with Baker and give us a chance to look at him in depth. But obviously, he has to get cut first.
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Wilson8 04:10 AM 02-19-2021
Originally Posted by Chargem:
Nate Taylor seemed to think Fish was cuttable
I think that is correct.

I believe both Eric Fisher and Mitchell Schwartz can be released by the Chiefs even though they are injured.

For Eric Fisher the guaranteed portion of his contract of $19,487,977 has been paid to him. Eric has a prorated bonus which will still count against the 2021 cap for $3,181,668. This would be considered Dead money. The Chiefs would save Eric's base of $11,250,000 plus his 2021 bonus money. - https://overthecap.com/player/eric-fisher/2182/

Mitchell Schwartz had $6,250,000 of guaranteed money which has already been paid. He also has a prorated bonus that would end up as $3,750,000 of dead money but would save Chiefs $6,098,750 of cap space by releasing him. https://overthecap.com/player/mitchell-schwartz/296/

The issue that people get confused by is guaranteed money. Alex Smith had a huge contract of guaranteed money with $44,000,000 which made it very costly to release even when he was injured.

To see more information concerning this, please see page 122 of NFLPA CBA - Guaranteed Contracts - https://nflpaweb.blob.core.windows.n...cuted-Copy.pdf
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Dull Tools 04:37 AM 02-19-2021
Originally Posted by Wilson8:
I think that is correct.

I believe both Eric Fisher and Mitchell Schwartz can be released by the Chiefs even though they are injured.

For Eric Fisher the guaranteed portion of his contract of $19,487,977 has been paid to him. Eric has a prorated bonus which will still count against the 2021 cap for $3,181,668. This would be considered Dead money. The Chiefs would save Eric's base of $11,250,000 plus his 2021 bonus money. - https://overthecap.com/player/eric-fisher/2182/

Mitchell Schwartz had $6,250,000 of guaranteed money which has already been paid. He also has a prorated bonus that would end up as $3,750,000 of dead money but would save Chiefs $6,098,750 of cap space by releasing him. https://overthecap.com/player/mitchell-schwartz/296/

The issue that people get confused by is guaranteed money. Alex Smith had a huge contract of guaranteed money with $44,000,000 which made it very costly to release even when he was injured.

To see more information concerning this, please see page 122 of NFLPA CBA - Guaranteed Contracts - https://nflpaweb.blob.core.windows.n...cuted-Copy.pdf
I think it would be worth getting an experienced OT in someone like Orlando Brown. The only reason to stick with both of them is loyalty or if the injury isn't as bad as we thought.
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Dull Tools 05:49 AM 02-19-2021
Originally Posted by O.city:
I think JJ Watt is or should be a pretty big target for kc. Can play de on early downs and kick inside in pass rush subs.

Draft Phillips at 31.

Phillips-watt- Jones-clark is a wicked front 4
Can't stop thinking about how good this would be.
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