MU ****Official 2018 Missouri Tigers Football Thread**** - Page 101

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Yeah, and if you subbed him in for Nnadi instead of kicking Jones out, your push up the middle would be pretty outstanding, especially if they can find a way to keep Ford here as a Leo.

He'd be a great rotational fit and that's a fine use of a 3rd round pick. I still don't know that I believe he'll be there in the late 3rd, though.

Beckner in the third would be disappointing for him, but great value for the Chiefs, IMO.
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Yeah, and if you subbed him in for Nnadi instead of kicking Jones out, your push up the middle would be pretty outstanding, especially if they can find a way to keep Ford here as a Leo.

He'd be a great rotational fit and that's a fine use of a 3rd round pick. I still don't know that I believe he'll be there in the late 3rd, though.

What is his ceiling profile wise? I mean if everythere worked out, how does he become more than a situational type guy?

Grady Jarrett?
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Originally Posted by O.city:
What is his ceiling profile wise? I mean if everythere worked out, how does he become more than a situational type guy?

Grady Jarrett?

Aim lower.

Timmy Jernigan? Maybe Kenny Clark?

Though I think you can argue that Clark's probably better than Jarrett at this point.

If I got Jernigan out of him I'd be pretty pleased with Clark probably being the high end of what you could expect in your wildest sort of expectations. Kenny Clark is under the radar really good.
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I have Beckner as an early Saturday pick.

Since we have no 4th round pick, I'd take him at the end of the 3rd.
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Beckner pre-knee injuries was a pretty exciting pro prospect to me. His initial quickness and burst made him really good at penetrating the backfield and getting quick pressure.

Since the Mormons blew his knee out with a dirty block, I don’t think he’s quite the same.

He still can be an effective interior pass rusher, but he needs to be going 1x1 in the pros. Not a blocker occupier.

If they could snag him in the 4th (no pick) or 5th, I think he’d be a great guy to have in the rotation and have available on passing downs as a second interior rusher.

If he’s higher than that,
I think it needs to be for a team that sees him as the starting undertackle or a starting strongside end in a 34.
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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
Beckner pre-knee injuries was a pretty exciting pro prospect to me. His initial quickness and burst made him really good at penetrating the backfield and getting quick pressure.

Since the Mormons blew his knee out with a dirty block, I don’t think he’s quite the same.

He still can be an effective interior pass rusher, but he needs to be going 1x1 in the pros. Not a blocker occupier.

If they could snag him in the 4th (no pick) or 5th, I think he’d be a great guy to have in the rotation and have available on passing downs as a second interior rusher.

If he’s higher than that,
I think it needs to be for a team that sees him as the starting undertackle or a starting strongside end in a 34.

How do you view a worthwhile return on a 3rd round pick?

I mean sure, ideally it's an every down starter, but that's not a realistic expectation. I think if you used a 3rd on a guy who could be a guy who plays 35-40% of your snaps and does so effectively, you're in pretty darn good shape with that pick.

I mean ultimately EVERYTHING depends on the board. I really should have that in my signature during draft season. But if a scenario unfolds where three are no obvious upgrades in the secondary or ILB, why wouldn't we consider Beckner a win even if he never amounts to more than a situational interior rusher?

In the 1st that's a disaster and in the 2nd it's maybe a little disappointing, but in the late 3rd, I just don't think you can expect a hell of a lot more than that.

I will also note that he looked very disruptive in 2017 post-knee injury. Didn't seem as much so this year but that kind of reputation can swing on a single big game here or there.
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Haven't you heard DJ, every draft pick needs to be an immediate everydown player.
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
How do you view a worthwhile return on a 3rd round pick?

I mean sure, ideally it's an every down starter, but that's not a realistic expectation. I think if you used a 3rd on a guy who could be a guy who plays 35-40% of your snaps and does so effectively, you're in pretty darn good shape with that pick.

I mean ultimately EVERYTHING depends on the board. I really should have that in my signature during draft season. But if a scenario unfolds where three are no obvious upgrades in the secondary or ILB, why wouldn't we consider Beckner a win even if he never amounts to more than a situational interior rusher?

In the 1st that's a disaster and in the 2nd it's maybe a little disappointing, but in the late 3rd, I just don't think you can expect a hell of a lot more than that.

I will also note that he looked very disruptive in 2017 post-knee injury. Didn't seem as much so this year but that kind of reputation can swing on a single big game here or there.

That’s a good point.

Beckner in the late 3rd, if he fits for Spagnuolo and can play 30 percent of the snaps, is pretty good value.

Sometimes I forget that subpackages play so much more nowadays...
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With how low our slot is in each round, I'd basically consider our 3rd to be a 4th.
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So Petrino is the new QB coach at MU?
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Originally Posted by O.city:
So Petrino is the new QB coach at MU?

Nah.

He just knows the WR coach so he's hanging out at practice. Nothing to see here.
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Originally Posted by O.city:
So Petrino is the new QB coach at MU?

No. He just has shown up at some practices because he has nothing else to do, and is closely connected to Garrick McGhee, the WR coach at Mizzou.

Dooley is the QB coach.
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Petrino is not going to get approved by the SEC office
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Originally Posted by ChiefBlueCFC:
Derek Dooley deserves to be kicked in the dick and Barry Odom needs to be fired for being complete and utter fucking idiots. And Drew Lock is not an NFL quarterback. I wouldn’t touch him if I was an NFL GM

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
He's right, you know.

These posts didn't age well, it looks like Drew will be an NFL Sunday QB...

He had great coaches growing up, that's for sure.
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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
That’s a good point.

Beckner in the late 3rd, if he fits for Spagnuolo and can play 30 percent of the snaps, is pretty good value.

Sometimes I forget that subpackages play so much more nowadays...

All wrong. Beckner has a sub 5.0 draft grade, which is the demarcation line for “has 50-50 chance to make a roster”. You never take guys in the 3rd with a 50-50 shot to even make the team. That’s like a 5 or 6

https://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker/prospects

10% of the nfl came from the 3rd round, which is identical to the 10% that came from the 2nd.
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