Originally Posted by Taco John:
That's fine. There will come a day when people wake up to things like MK Ultra - stuff that most people simply dismiss. I don't dismiss it. I listen to the victims who have spoken out. Their stories are outrageous. Unbelievable in many cases. Nevertheless, where there is smoke there is fire. It doesn't bother me that people who have never explored the accounts of these victims think someone who has is "crazy." We're people, and we judge like that. I likewise have my own judgements about people who refuse to look at the evidence around them.
There is a bigger picture that you're not going to see on CNN. You're just not.
Oh for sure. The stuff around MK Ultra is startling, but the same themes surface in virtually every account. Take a listen for yourself...
I doubt you will. This stuff is difficult to hear. Taken as one account, I'm sure most people will dismiss it. But when you start to find other accounts and find people like Paris Hilton validating this with their own experiences:
...and then consider things you've seen like Brittney Spears meltdowns and incidents like Harvey Wiensten and Jeffrey Epstein -- eventually these things start to add up to a bigger picture.
That bigger picture is out there for anyone to find and piece together. It's true what they say: seek and you will find.
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Or comport yourself in a non-cesspool way, and see if your example inspires others.
The things that bother you don't bother me, and the things that bother me don't bother you [and I don't complain about].
I don't complain, but as here I push back with my own perspective when others complain. And when I feel compelled to 'complain' it's directly to the offending party at the time and place of offense with concrete reasons, . . . not 'it's all a cesspool filled with nazis' which is undiscussable, undisprovable, and inflammatory.
'Heightened moderation' just invites more 'vitriol' about what decisions are made, and further likely promotes more passive-aggression and people being assholes in more elaborate, mod-proof ways in rebellion.
1. People going out of their way to mask their horrendousness is better than being blatantly horrendous.
2. I don't really care about people pouting that they've been removed from a thread after threatening or constantly insulting people. Pout away.
